Jeff Davis monument comes down after 106 years!

I know: I’m just saying it’s above the understanding of the American people, or at least 65 million of them.

Actually Robert E. Lee understood that secession was nothing more than revolution;

Robert E. Lee to George Washington Custis Lee
Fort Mason, Texas, January 23, 1861.
I received Everett’s “Life of Washington” which you sent
me, and enjoyed its perusal. How his spirit would be grieved
could he see the wreck of his mighty labors! I will not, however,permit myself to believe, until all ground of hope is gone,that the fruit of his noble deeds will be destroyed, and that his precious advice and virtuous example will so soon be forgotten by his countrymen. As far as I can judge by the papers, we are between a state of anarchy and civil war. May God avert both of these evils from us! I fear that mankind will not for years be sufficiently Christianized to bear the absence of restraint and force. I see that four States have declared themselves out of the Union; four more will apparently follow their example. Then,if the Border States are brought into the gulf of revolution,one-half of the country will be arrayed against the other. I must try and be patient and await the end, for I can do nothing to hasten or retard it.

The South, in my opinion, has been aggrieved by the acts of the North, as you say. I feel the aggression, and am willing to take every proper step for redress. It is the principle I contend for, not individual or private benefit. As an American citizen, I take great pride in my country, her prosperity and institutions, and would defend any State if her rights were invaded.

But I can anticipate no greater calamity for the country than a dissolution of the Union. It would be an accumulation of all the evils we complain of, and I am willing to sacrifice everything but honor for its preservation. I hope, therefore, that all constitutional means will be exhausted before there is a resort to force. Secession is nothing but revolution. The framers of
our Constitution never exhausted so much labor, wisdom, and
forbearance in its formation, and surrounded it with so many
guards and securities, if it was intended to be broken by every member of the Confederacy at will. It was intended for “perpetual union,” so expressed in the preamble, and for the establishment of a government, not a compact, which can only be dissolved by revolution, or the consent of all the people in convention assembled. It is idle to talk of secession. Anarchy would have been established, and not a government, by Washington, Hamilton, Jefferson, Madison, and the other patriots of the Revolution. . . . . Still, a Union that can only be maintained by swords and bayonets, and in which strife and civil war are to take the place of brotherly love and kindness, has no charm for me. I shall mourn for my country and for the welfare and progress of mankind. If the Union is dissolved, and the Government disrupted, I shall return to my native State and share the miseries of my people, and save in defense will draw my sword on none.

Thanks for sharing Lee’s letter. It’s clear he loved this country, having seen his father fight for it’s birth, but despite those patriotic feelings, he still felt compelled to protect his State and the people in it from what they believed to be an encumbering government.

Discussions with Timpanogos is a total waste of time. That dude is a leftist plant.

Nope. This is just the first time I have spoken of it.

What are you talking about? To hell with the Klan. On this subject they do not even merit discussion. This is about honoring our history and ancestors (I would also support any Union monuments as well). They were all Americans.

Amen to that. I try to point that out to the “Sandernistas’’ all the time and they just don’t get it. A good number of my nieces and nephews think he’s the greatest. breaks my heart to see them act so stupidly.