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Dunkirk - one Freeper's opinion
19th June 2017

Posted on 07/19/2017 6:53:21 AM PDT by naturalman1975

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To: TADSLOS

What Hitler didn’t count on was the Italians screwing up in North Africa and having to do there to try to bail them out. In many ways, Mussolini was the best “Ally” the Allies could have had.


41 posted on 07/19/2017 8:22:37 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: snoringbear

Didn’t say we shouldn’t have aligned with them. FDR gave away the store like the leftist he was. This gave us 45 years of Cold War. We should have gone into Berlin....not the commies.


42 posted on 07/19/2017 8:23:27 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: pgkdan

Churchill was the right man at the right time, just like Trump saved us from Hillary.


43 posted on 07/19/2017 8:24:02 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration

I think deep down Hitler always kept the hope of Germany and Britain eventually becoming allies, because they shared certain racial lines. In his mind it was inconceivable that Britain would choose Soviet Russia over Germany.


44 posted on 07/19/2017 8:24:38 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: naturalman1975

I am not a serious student of WWII but do fine it interesting.

My guess is the German Army was too exhausted to continue and took a few days to rest, reorganize etc. They thought they had the British trapped and had the time.

Similarly, I have read criticism of General Meade for not following up after Gettysburg. The truth is he couldn’t. Lee retreated to a strong position and according to Encyclopedia Britannica, the North lost even more than the South.

That totally surprises most people. The casualties were relatively even but the South could not afford that.


45 posted on 07/19/2017 8:25:02 AM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: montag813

I read a book recently called “Blitzed: Drugs in the Third Reich” that makes the case that many of Hitler’s and the Nazi leadership’s dumbest decisions had to do with the fact that Hitler and others were hopped up on some kind of mind-altering drug all the time.

Have you ever noticed that most of the leaders of the so-called “Master Race” were physically ugly, degenerate losers? According to their standards and beliefs, they would be the real untermenschen. They should have exterminated themselves first.


46 posted on 07/19/2017 8:41:38 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: steve8714

“Ten million of those Russians were starved by their own government, and Stalin used the war as an excuse for many atrocities against his own.”

Ok, let’s go with your number. That leaves 10M fed into the German meat grinder. Hell of a lot more casualties than we would have been willing to take.


47 posted on 07/19/2017 8:42:07 AM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: naturalman1975

Going to see this Friday. Can’t wait. Christopher Nolan is the best director of his generation. His “Dark Knight” series was an absolute masterpiece—and I don’t like “Batman” as a character.

From the trailer, it looks like he got the messages right.


48 posted on 07/19/2017 8:47:24 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: montag813

The real heroes of Dunkirk never get the credit. It was the French 1st Army, France’s best unit, that fought it out inland with the German 6th Army so that the British would be able to get off the beaches at Dunkirk.


49 posted on 07/19/2017 8:47:55 AM PDT by henkster (Ask your favorite liberal to take the "Snowflake Challenge.")
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To: yarddog

“My guess is the German Army was too exhausted to continue and took a few days to rest, reorganize etc. They thought they had the British trapped and had the time.

Similarly, I have read criticism of General Meade for not following up after Gettysburg. The truth is he couldn’t. Lee retreated to a strong position and according to Encyclopedia Britannica, the North lost even more than the South.”

You’ve nailed it. From the Civil War on, the U.S. has excelled at the ability to project power and provide the logistics support to make it happen. While there have been other great armies as well trained as ours or even better, none have been able to even come close in this. Example; Hitler came up lacking at least three times; Dunkirk, invasion of England, invasion of the Soviet Union. Taking a leap forward to the present and now; the EU (primarily Germany) for all its bluster about going it’s own way, couldn’t project power to its own border much less beyond. The U.S. is the only nation with the wherewithal to do it.


50 posted on 07/19/2017 8:53:03 AM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: henkster

Absolutely, without them there wouldn’t be a story.


51 posted on 07/19/2017 9:11:47 AM PDT by TexasM1A
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To: BluH2o

“———bronze plaque designating that this craft had participated in the evacuation of Dunkirk. “


Fascinating. How long ago was this?

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52 posted on 07/19/2017 9:20:16 AM PDT by Mears
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To: fortheDeclaration

Our military was in pathetic shape.


Could have been worse. The draft act of 1940 passed by one vote.


53 posted on 07/19/2017 9:23:42 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: TADSLOS

An islamohole. Sad.


54 posted on 07/19/2017 9:46:52 AM PDT by vpintheak (Freedom is not equality; and equality is not freedom!)
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To: Mears
Fascinating. How long ago was this?

July 2001 ... 16 years ago.

55 posted on 07/19/2017 9:55:39 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: BluH2o

Thanks-——so it was a very old boat.

I hope you got pics. :-)

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56 posted on 07/19/2017 9:59:30 AM PDT by Mears
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To: Locomotive Breath

I just saw an interview that was done back in the ‘70s with Karl Doenitz. He said that he had asked for more Uboats during late 39 and 40. He told Hitler at that time that with more Uboats that he could force Britain to capitulate by cutting off the supplies they were receiving from the U.S. by convoy. He said that Hitler’s obsession with building a grandiose surface navy with large imposing battleships kept them from being able to finish off Great Britain when it was most vulnerable because Hitler was unwilling to build a large number of the relatively more inexpensive Uboats to finish the job on GB.

WW2 would likely have turned out a lot differently if Hitler had not been such a stubborn loon.


57 posted on 07/19/2017 10:33:17 AM PDT by Big Red Clay (Greetings from the Big Red State)
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To: dfwgator
True, he was willing to let them keep their Empire.

He didn't reckon on Churchill becoming PM.

58 posted on 07/19/2017 10:56:22 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Joe 6-pack; BenLurkin

Until Okinawa, Iwo Jima land bunker-to-bunker slaughters of American and Japanese troops (and the suicides of thousands of Japanese civilians in Okinawa); and the loss of hundreds of ships in the kamikaze suicide attacks, we really had no idea how many hundreds of thousands of Americans - how many millions more of Japanese! - would have been lost fighting in Japan itself.


59 posted on 07/19/2017 11:00:44 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Big Red Clay
" WW2 would likely have turned out a lot differently if Hitler had not been such a stubborn loon."

Hitler was Austrian and he spoke Austrian. Therefore when he gave orders to Germans, who only spoke German, they couldn't understand him. Plus, Hitler had asthma but nobody could find a breathalyzer. That's why the war was lost.

60 posted on 07/19/2017 1:14:10 PM PDT by crazy scenario ( We can't take you anywhere!)
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