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Carriers will be good for low level combat operations but in a large conflict I believe their time is over. Just my opinion.
1 posted on 09/14/2017 6:34:49 PM PDT by BBell
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To: BBell

Oh God the anti carrier crowd is back.


2 posted on 09/14/2017 6:36:25 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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For the cost of the carrier (not including its escort ships and planes — several billions more) we could have had

several nuclear attack submarines

multiple times that non-nuclear but silent submarines

over 100 small silent submarines

etc. etc.

Which would be easier for a potential enemy to defeat — one huge target, or many multiple targets with varying capabilities?


3 posted on 09/14/2017 6:39:08 PM PDT by CondorFlight
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I think the Yamato and Musahsi would both have been deadly if the Japanese still had enough air power to protect it from air attack.


4 posted on 09/14/2017 6:40:21 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: BBell

I tend to agree with #1 and #3.


9 posted on 09/14/2017 6:48:01 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands
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If you replace all of the pieces on the back row of the chessboard with pawns, you get a lot of standardization and in the right circumstances, a pawn can take out a queen.

But, oh, how you limit your options.


12 posted on 09/14/2017 6:51:06 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: BBell

I dunno. Null sec ratting with a Thanatos or a Chimera is pretty profitable.


17 posted on 09/14/2017 7:06:07 PM PDT by Noumenon (Can you imagine if Islam were NOT the religion of peace?)
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See the South Korean missile test. Fired from 300 miles away and they hit a bullseye. Now replace the target and make it any navy ship. One missile will not be the only one fired at the ship.


19 posted on 09/14/2017 7:08:26 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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the power of a carrier is the ability to launch attacks but not BE attacked.

That was true for a LONG time because the range of most aircraft was longer than the best anti-ship missiles of the time.

That’s no longer true:

Even POOR countries have the tech to reach out and threaten our carriers with missiles.

To be close enough to launch airstrikes the carrier must come within the range of some missiles.

We could easily correct the equation with robotic strike aircraft; Northrop-Grumman spent about a billion bucks and had one almost ready.

Suddenly cancelled, now that program exists only as an UNstealthy, flying robotic gas station, and even that role will not be ready for at least 1 or 2 years.

It’s original role as a stealthy attack plane is GONE.


21 posted on 09/14/2017 7:11:29 PM PDT by gaijin
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Sinking an Aircraft Carrier or even getting a mission kill is a lot harder than people think.

You have to
1. Find it.
2. Target it. (Not the same thing)
3. Maintain target track long enough to get a sufficient number of weapons through the Carrier Battle Group AAW screen. How many is that? It depends.

All three of these are non-trivial problems.

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28 posted on 09/14/2017 7:25:50 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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“what distinguishes the Ford are its technological improvements. “

A maternity ward, a catapult that is very problematic, fewer hands for damage control, highly automated and dependent on tech. And designed around the least capable navy attack plane built in the jet era...the F-35.


32 posted on 09/14/2017 7:30:04 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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The Yamato’s guns had a range of 26 miles.
An F18 has a combat radius of 450 miles.

They are both large ships, but that is about the only thing they have in common.


33 posted on 09/14/2017 7:32:14 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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I love how these junior officers write as if the Pentagon is oblivious to the threats they're identifying. Gee I think the Joint Chiefs have access to all this information and a whole lot more.
50 posted on 09/14/2017 8:19:24 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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Hopefully todays super-carrier centric navy will have its Billy Mitchell moment and realize the future is in drowns and swarms of mini-drones. It doesn’t take a 100,000 tons of big target to pack the punch of an Alpha Strike anymore.


52 posted on 09/14/2017 8:22:30 PM PDT by azcap (Who is John Galt ? www.conservativeshirts.com)
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