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To: LibWhacker

Here we go again... Do the math:
The universe is billions of years old. There are billions of “Goldilocks” planets. If, IF, life evolved on some of these, say 2%, then that would mean that there are millions of planets with life, certainly hundreds if not thousands IN OUR GALAXY. Some, SOME of these must certainly have begun the evolutionary process MILLIONS of years before our EARTH.

This means that there should be hundreds if not THOUSANDS of life forms in our galaxy that are MILLIONS of years more advanced than US....

WHERE ARE THEY?


22 posted on 09/21/2017 6:17:53 PM PDT by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Western Civilization- whisper the words, and it will disappear. So let us talk now about rebirth.)
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw

I like my answer to Fermi best. I haven’t seen it anywhere else; namely, in the multiverse, why should an advanced civilization stay here and fight over this universe with aliens who are potentially much more advanced and dangerous than you are, when you can just slip over into another of an infinite number of unoccupied universes, close the door behind you, and set up shop there?


25 posted on 09/21/2017 6:33:01 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw
If, IF, life evolved on some of these, say 2%, then that would mean that there are millions of planets with life, certainly hundreds if not thousands IN OUR GALAXY.

But, your math is very incomplete, because...

Those "goldilock" planets would have be located in the favorable region of their "sun", and then, it would have to be protected from all kinds of life-ending or life-preventing events, such as "we" are via the protection that "our" outer-planets perform by preventing asteroids/comets/meteors/moonlets, etc., from colliding with "us". Then, your math would have to include enough water and enough self-created heat from the planet. Then your math would have to consider how many of those planets would have enough water and sun-heat in order to produce enough cloud vapor to create enough "cloud" material to produce the necessary lightning to produce the spark required to "start" the initial stages of the most primitive of life-form. Then, you'd have to calculate the best environment that would sustain that most basic of life-form. Then, you'd have to calculate what kind of evolution factors are needed in order for that most primitive of life-forms to continue to advance into other more advanced life-forms.

Basically, there might not be any mathematical formula that could take in the thousands or perhaps millions or billions (trillions?) of factors needed in order to arrive at the totality of conditions that would favor "life as we know it" here on Earth.

We just might be "unique" in the universe.

But then, we're talking about "life as we know it", and not life-forms that we can't imagine yet.

Then, "intelligence" might not be based strictly on carbon-based/water-needing/sun-required life forms. Perhaps there is "other" types of intelligence that we can't ever imagine. Suppose, for example, that, intelligence can exist without having to be occupying the body of a "life-form"?

Then again, we Earthlings could be unique in the whole universe, and we were "engineered" by the most magnificent of engineers, or what we often call "the intelligent designer".
26 posted on 09/21/2017 7:22:15 PM PDT by adorno (w)
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