Posted on 09/30/2017 7:49:41 AM PDT by Wuli
Allowed Windows 10 latest update/build to run on my PC last night. It ended shortly before I went to bed, and I shut down the PC.
The morning I could not execute my Win 7 games - Solitaire, Spider Solitaire, Freecell, Majong. All the "run as administrator" and "compatibility" and "compatibility troubleshooting stuff" didn't do a dam thing. NOTHING, not even reinstall of the games and then all the compatibility stuff again worked. Nada, zilch.,
I had expended considerable effort from XP to Win 7 and then to Win getting versions of these games that would run, after each Windows version transitions.
Each time I had to jump through some hoops to get them working again, but once they did in Win 10, I had passed through previous Win 10 regular updates (not the same as a new build) and kept them working.
This time I had to roll back the whole Win 10 update that installed last night.
Legally I know Microsoft is not required to keep these older style games running under new Windows versions.
Regardless, I sure wish the threat of a class action lawsuit convinced them to quit screwing it up, as each time some geeks can be found that show how to do some tricks (that Microsoft knows about) to get the games running again. So, what they have been doing, from XP to Win 7, from Win 7 to Win 8, from Win 8 to Win 10 and in Win 10 updates, that screw up the games, has been unnecessary and preventable, if they - Microsoft - cared to put some attention to it.
Just makes me blood-pressure-up-mad each time.
You may be able to block some of the updates by telling it you have a metered connection. I don’t think you can turn off updates completely in 10.
I updated a laptop but decided at the last minute to keep 7 on my main machine. Best decision I’ve made in a good while.
I’ll make a decision between 10 and Linux when I have to get a new machine eventually. Until then, I’ll avoid the Win10 problems.
Sounds like a lot of effort for no gain since there are free versions of all those games widely available on the net. It’s not the win 7 versions of those games were super amazing definitive editions. Take 10 minutes on your favorite legal download site and get new versions.
-PJ
Linux Mint with Virtual Boxes for XP and Win7.
Updates happen while you “work”. Not so many reboots on Linux. Windows VBs do need to reboot, but you can be doing other stuff simultaneously.
For now, just glad I could uninstall the Win 10 new build/update and everything, including the games, were back to the conditions - running - before that Win 10 update.
For now I have shut off any Dell or Windows updates. And when they ask, I will not update the Win 10 again.
A few of the older games have openings for security issues. Patches for security may be trying to block those holes.
I have my Start menu setup with the programs I want in the order I want on my work pc they stay put... so far but on my personal laptop the programs shifted around and there is this stupid square with an arrow that swallows up my icons into into it and makes them tiny.
I drag it out of it and it repeats anytime I try moving my programs around. It is like one of those games where you move the squares around and Microsoft Pacman swallows up the icons!
Let’s see the problem logically.
Plays shitty games.
Uses shitty operating system.
Complains about shitty experience.
I got Win 7 working versions of the old games when I upgraded to Win 7 - just like the old XP versions but compatible with Win 7.
I had some issues when it went to Win 8, but again got Win 8 updated versions of the same games from the same place, and they worked under Win 8.
I had some issues again when it went to Win 10 initially. But went to work and got them all working again.
Then after the new build installed last night none of them would work AT ALL (not even start to execute) and none of tricks worked. Nothing they tell you to do to get them to work again worked. Even reinstalled them just as I had when I got them to run under Win 10 the first time. NOTHING worked.
So I rolled back the Win 10 system to the system build & updates prior to the new build update last night. And now everything is O.K.
Likely I won’t run another Win 10 update.
Each time I have to go through the work to uninstall Cortana and MS “One Drive”, and that was bad enough.
I wasted many hours playing that old pinball game that came with Windows 98.
It took me a while to get my XP games to run on Win7. That is precisely one of the many reasons I have NOT gone to Win10.
I have never understood software companies who remove features from their software programs in later upgrades/updates. Many times, the feature they removed was the exact reason I was using their program. I have dropped many software programs over the years for removing or changing features. The next task it in finding a good replacement, but for many features, comparable replacements do not exist.
I have several old (XP and Win98) programs and utilities that have no comparable equivalents in the Win7/10 world.
I usually use an old IE6-based tabbed browser for FR. It has several editing add-on utilities that are not available with other browsers. When FR ‘fixed’ the security certification issue several months ago, that broke IE. I had a computer reboot due to electrical surge and it ‘lost’ my IE log-in to FR. The problem is when the HTTP log-in screen tries to switch to an HTTPS secure page. The problem does not happen with Opera, FF, Chrome.
Then, there is Firefox and the rapid release. I have lost many good utility extensions/add-ons because the original creators stopped trying to update to Mozilla’s rapid release. I recently read that by upgrade 57, FF will completely redo their add-ons programming, so likely by then all existing add-ons will no longer be compatible.
New, Improved are not always better. I still cringe every time I see ‘upgrade’ or ‘update’ and wonder what THAT will break.
Ping
I’m still running XP (off line!) because a very expensive CAD program won’t run on anything newer.
Thanks Microsoft!
Have you tried some of the other flavors of Linux?
I played with Linux about 8 years ago, but I haven’t had the opportunity lately. I was going to play with Mint on my laptop - even partitioned the hard drive to make a place for it, but had trouble burning the ISO with the Win10 machine and never got back to the project. (Yes, the plan now is to burn the DVD on my Win7 and then carry it over to my laptop - very 1990s networking - but I haven’t had time to play with things lately.)
The real reason Microsoft is killing off all the old software is to force people to use all the Windows Store apps instead and make Windows a single source (Microsoft) machine so they could control everything on it.
I also use Spybot Anti-Beacon to kill off as much of the spyware as possible.
“I updated a laptop but decided at the last minute to keep 7 on my main machine. Best decision I’ve made in a good while.”
Yea, you had 30 days after the initial Win 10 install where you could act to keep the Win 7 restore available (if you did not separately keep Win 7 stored altogether somewhere). I did not realize that until I was helping someone else with their first update from Win 7 to Win 10. For them it was good we saw that and right away, for them, we could simply restore Win 7, with Windows restore feature. 30 days later that restore point would have been gone. Wish I had recognized that when I updated my PC to Win 10.
Have you looked at SeaMonkey lately (I haven't - I have a really old version that I've been afraid to update). It may have features that have been cut out of the newer programs.
As for Firefox - it's like the guys running it are trying their best to kill it. At least Microsoft is pursuing a clear agenda, even if I don't like it as a consumer (they do seem to be delivering for their stockholders).
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