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To: Pelham
First of all, he was a DIE officer, or Romanian, in other words, although he was the highest ranking Eastern Bloc official to ever defect.

Second of all, I have nothing against Ronald Reagan, it's just that Pacepa has witnessed these things and has played a direct role in orchestrating disinformation campaigns, so I suggest you not dismiss him out of hand.

And I might as well post exactly what he said on the two (and for the record, he directly references Operation Solo):

"When I was working for Nicolae Ceaușescu , I always tried to find a way to help him reach a decision on his own, rather than telling him directly what I thought he should do about something. That way, both of us were happy. From our KGB advisors, I had learned that the best way to put over a deception was to let the target see something for himself, with his own eyes. Not surprisingly, there are two cleverly executed and spectacularly successful examples of this tactic that turn up as part of the KGB disinformation operation connected with the Kennedy assassination.

"In November 1963, Morris Childs, the number two man in the American Communist Party (which he had joined in 1919!), was on his annual visit to Moscow for the purpose of requesting money and receiving policy instructions. On November 22, as news of the assassination broke, Morris was summoned to the office of Boris Ponomarev, the powerful chairman of the International Department of the Central Committee of the Communist Party. The two men had just begun discussing how the American party should react when a couple of party underlings burst in, their faces ashen. In Russian, which Morris had never admitted to understanding, they breathlessly briefed Ponomarev on Oswald's arrest, blurting out that he was a former US Marine who had defected to the Soviet Union, but that after he had attempted suicide, Soviet psychiatrists had concluded he was unbalanced, so the Soviets were glad to be rid of him when he asked to go back to the United States. The storytellers excitedly added that the KGB had just sworn to the Kremlin that it never had any operational relationship with him.

"Suddenly the storytellers noticed Morris--"the American"--and asked what he should be told. Ponomarev vouched for him and said he should be told the truth. The talented actors then retold the same story, which was relayed to Morris through an interpreter. The Soviets beseeched Moris to believe they had nothing to do with the assassination.

"In fact, since 1951, Morris Childs had been a very sensitive FBI agent, whose reporting was considered to be completely reliable and whose identity was never revealed to anyone until 1995 when John Brannon received permission to publish Operation Solo: The FBI's Man in the Kremlin, from which the above account is taken.

"In 1993, before the publication of Solo, my wife and I had enjoyed a long lunch with John Barron, hosted by Alfred Regnery, who had published my book Red Horizons and had just read the outline of a book on the Kennedy assassination I was writing. At lunch, the discussion centered around Morris's diary, which Barron had just obtained from Morris's widow, and around Al Regnery's intention to publish it as a book. During that lunch, I learned that Morris's information was regularly and anonymously distributed to top members of the US government on an "eyes only" basis. Barron's book, published in 1995, contains convincing evidence that Morris was a very trusted FBI agent and that the information he provided to the FBI played a decisive role in the decision of the Warren Commission--and later, of the House Committee on Assassinations--not to consider any Soviet bloc hand in President Kennedy's assassination.

"There is no question that Morris Childs, as well as his brother Jack, who had both once been loyal members of the American Communist Party, were by 1951 and for the rest of their lives absolutely reliable and devoted FBI sources. Morris was mainly involved with policy guidelines and Jack with funds, both of which commodities they obtained from the Soviet Communist Party and passed on to its American subsidiary. Even after 1963, both brothers continued to meet with their communist contacts and both remained confident the Soviets trusted them.[19]

"According to the Mitrokhin Archive, however, in 1974, the KGB component responsible for operations in the United State became suspicious of Morris Childs because of certain anomalies in his background. Jack, then, also fell under suspicion for similar reasons. Both brothers had been leading figures in the American party since its ealry days and both had switched their allegiance to the FBI in 1951. (Morris was the number two man in the overt party and Jack an important member of the underground party, who picked up the funds for the party through clandestine meetings with KGB officers. By the 1970s, the working-level KGB officers responsible for espionage in the United States had wondered if the brothers might be reporting to the FBI, especially because the brothers had experienced no ill effects from the anticommunist "witch-hunts" of the 1950s.)

"Although in the 1970s the working level of the KGB periodically recommended that the party replace both workers, the party dragged its feet and took no action for various reasons, mostly saying the head of the party in the United States was happy with them. Morris finally retired from his party position in 1981 and Jack died that same year. Both brothers had been highly decorated by the Soviets in the 1970s--in 1977 the party even threw a special birthday party for Morris, attended by KGB chairman Andropov, party International Department chairman Ponomarev, Soviet leader Leonid Brezhnev, and about half the Politburo. Brezhnev pinned the Order of the Red Banner, a high onor, on Morris's lapel. (At the same time, Jack was given the same award, which he would receive the next time he went to Moscow.)[20]

"Putting all of the above information on the Childs brothers together, we must inevitably conclude that the top levels for both the KGB and the Soviet Communist Party had long understood--since at least 1963 and probably much earlier--that Morris and Jack Childs were reporting to the FBI. Instead of dumping or even arresting them, the KGB and party leadership realized they could use the brothers as unwitting conduits for disinformation. The brothers would not only pass the Kremlin's political messages to the American party, but they would also ac as superbly credible sources for the disinformation the Kremlin wished to convey to the American government. When the incredible happened and Oswald did succeed in killing President Kennedy, the Kremlin went into overdrive to conince both Childs brothers separately that the Soviets had nothing to do with it.

"The show put on Morris on November 22, 1963, was unquestionably a farce, deliberately staged as part of the Kennedy assassination disinformation operation. The Soviets certainly knew that Morris spoke Russian as he had spent the first nine years of his life in tsaris Russia, and later three years at the Communist Party's Lenin School for Moscow, where he had even been recruited by the KGB predecessor as an informant. Moreover, it is incredible that any party flunkies would have dared bto break into Ponomarev's meeting with an American, to say nothing of their having spoken freely about such extremely sensitive matters as Oswald's background or KGB file records.

"As a marvelous bonus, the Mitrokhin Archive completes the picture. Although the First (US) Department of the KGB's foreign directorate spotted weak points in the backgrounds of the Childs brothers and kept urging the party to drop them, the top KGB and party leaders knew perfectly well that the brothers were reporting to the FBI. The interruption of Ponomarev's meeting with Morris on November 22, was clearly planned deliberately, so that he would convince the FBI (and thus also the top level of the American government) of the lie that the Soviets had had absolutely nothing to do with Kennedy's assassination."

"Remarkably, another staged performance took place in Cuba on that very same day on November 22, 1963--an "amazing coincidence," as Fidel Castro would call what happened. On that afternoon, Fidel hosted a luncheon at his Varadero beach house outside of Havana, to honor Jean Daniel, the distinguished French correspondent of the Parisian weekly L'Express. The latter had been visiting Cuba for several weeks and hd already spent a couple of days with Castro. About a dozen people--Castro, Danil and his wife, and nine or ten other Cubans--were sitting around a table, when Cuba's figurehead president called on the telephone with preliminary news of the Kennedy assassination attempt. Fidel took the call in the presence of his guests, who heard him in astonishment: "¿Como? ¿Un atentado?" (What? An assassination attempt?). Fidel seemed genuinely shocked, but he had the presence of mind to ask immediately who the vice president was. When it was shortly thereafter llearned that the president was dead, Castro expressed alarm, saying "They will have to find the assassin quickly, otherwise you watch and see, they will try to blame us." Brian Latell, after reporting the above story in his book, perceptively points out that Castro may have had an ulterior motive for arranging that luncheon with such care, "and with the expectation that Jean Daniel would write one or more widely circulated articles." Indeed, two articles by Daniel soon appeared inn the New Republic articles describing the above scene. Because Daniel was a journalist of impeccable reputation, no one would ever question where Castro was when he heard the news, or his surprise over it.[21] But why did Fidel worry about who the vice president was, even before the president was reportedly mortally wounded? And why was he afraid people would blame Cuba, before anyone knew who the assassin was? In any case, it seems clear that Fidel Castro was doing his best to support the KGB's disinformation operation by denying any Cuban involvement in the assassination and by trying to peddle some of the KGB's suggested solutions to the crime."

"Jack Childs also played a role in the disinformation operation mounted after the assassination. The Communist Party had introduced Jack to Fidel Castro in May 1963, during the latter's first visit to Moscow. The two seemed to get along well together, so in May 1964, the Soviet Communist Party sent Jack from Moscow to Havana, after coaching him in how to deal with Castro, who allegedly needed someone to talk to. After cooling his heels for nine days, on the tenth day Jack was finally summoned by Fidel. They were discussing party relations between the United States and Cuba, when out of the blue Fidel asked: "Do you think Oswald killed President Kennedy?" Castro then answered his own question, saying his people had experimented with a gun similar to the one Oswald had used, and they had concluded it was impossible for one person to have fired the three reported shots in such short succession--it had to have been a conspiracy. He also told Jack Childs that Oswald had stormed out of the Cuban Embassy after being refused a visa, saying "I'm going to kill Kennedy for thhis." Jack, of course, reported this back not only to the American party, but especially to the FBI, which did give it to the Warren Commission, although FBI director Hoover trivialized it, convinced there had been no conspiracy.[22]

"Now we can understand why Morris and Jack Childs were both awarded the Order of the RedBanner with great ceremony at the Kremlin in 1977."

The sources are as follows:

19. John Barron, Operation Solo: The FBI's Man in the Kremlin (Washington: Regnery, 1995), passim.
20. Andrew and Mitrokhin, The Sword and the Shield, 287-289.
21. (Brian) Latell (Castro's Secrets (New York: Palrave Macmillan, 2012)), 204-205.
22. Ibid., 141-144.

"Well, there’s been more than one “confession of involvement.”

There’s the infamous CIA officer, Howard Hunt. And David Morales, Operations officer at the JMWAVE station in Miami where he trained BayofPigs operatives. Both took credit. Some in the Agency - involved in the BoP and other anti-Castro operations grew to hate President Kennedy over lack of action to remove Castro. This intensified in the aftermath of the Cuban Missile Crisis and the spring 1963 crackdown on exile groups operating against Cuban targets from Miami. Morales was reported to have gone off on a drunken tirade regarding Kennedy’s failure to support the men of the BoP saying, “Well, we took care of that son of a bitch, didn’t we?”

Which is consistent with John Martino whose life intersected with many of the Agency’s anti-Castro activists, including Morales and Frank Sturgis. Martino stated he had been involved in a peripheral way, and that “The anti-Castro people put Oswald together was LHO was just ignorant of who was really putting him together. Oswald was to meet his contact at the Texas Theatre and they were to get him out of the country, then eliminate him. Oswald made a mistake...There was no way we could get to him. They had Ruby kill him.”

And now we have the CIA in a legal battle over the records of officer George Joannides, and has admitted to the existence of 1,100 assassination documents withheld in full. Note that Joannides = JMWAVE and these records are separate from the JFK Collection documents to be released this week."

Maybe, but considering what Ion Mihai Pacepa and Markus Wolf stated, I'm pretty sure Cuba and the USSR had involvement in the assassination.
201 posted on 10/23/2017 2:46:35 PM PDT by otness_e
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To: otness_e

One good turn deserves another! Right!

Fidel Castro was a target of the CIA’s secret armies dozens of times from 1959-2000. Their never-ending failure to oust Fidel Castro from power kept Havana on edge. Castro would have every reason to to retaliate.

Castro grooming Oswald as “the presumed assassin” was first promoted by CIA propagandists in Miami 11/24/63. It would validate Oswald’s motive by linking his desire to block Kennedy’s goal to assassinate Castro or overthrow the Cuban government. But the Oswald-Cuban letters turned out to be bogus and that theory quickly loss momentum.

Russian involvement at Dealey Plaza has not been a real popular theory.


202 posted on 10/23/2017 4:41:15 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: otness_e

So you believe a Soviet Bloc defector over Ronald Reagan.

Why am I not surprised?


203 posted on 10/23/2017 5:46:54 PM PDT by Pelham (Liberate California. Deport Mexico Now)
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