But he's too old to be drafted!
Posted on 10/27/2017 6:55:03 AM PDT by C19fan
I am a combat veteran. I spent 17 months in combat and another 7 months in the hospital recovering. I can tell categorically that we don't need the handicap of trying to make young women function in a killing organization. The young men in an infantry platoon depend on each other to carry their weight in an environment that is profoundly stressful and dangerous.
Placing young women and young men together introduces a combination of hormones and sexual dynamics into the mix and nothing breaks unit cohesion faster than competition for mates.
Nothing is ever symmetrical: PFC A "falls in love" with Sgt B who is in turn "in love with" Cpl C. Several will have the hots for the same one - and who in their right mind is going to trust the person on their left or right flank if they are in competition for the same person?
How are the Marines/soldiers that don't have anyone going to feel about the lucky few that do have someone?
Who will have priority when the shooting starts - the unit mission or their Main Squeeze?
How will anyone believe that their officers or their NCOs will be impartial when dangerous assignments are given? (such as who will be on Point, or the first one into a doorway, or going out to Listening Post for the night)
Combat isn't a sporting event, it isn't a game, it isn't an equal-opportunity job: it's killing or being killed. It requires training, trust and talent - and testosterone.
Want to wreck everything and get more people of your own killed? pack those combat units with weaker-bodied distractions and stand by to lose.
For those of you who have said "well, we'll just draft them for non-combat jobs" know better. The second the government get the Green Light to draft any and all women, there won't a single promise kept if they want to fill their numbers.
No, we have more than enough able-bodied men - about a hundred million, if push comes to shove - an if the "balloon goes up", we need to see them carrying a rifle, not young women.
Congrats. Your girls are the exception not the rule.
“Women are *hypergamous* — they marry up.”
Precisely. But what is strange they usually cheat down, because “he made me feel special.”
LOL. I am so glad to men are waking up to the marriage/magic of women.
Where in the constitution does it say one must serve in the military ?
Thank you. Said much better than I could
I have a feeling his wife’s name is Ed.
Chainmail: "For those of you who have said 'well, we'll just draft them for non-combat jobs' know better.
The second the government get the Green Light to draft any and all women, there won't a single promise kept if they want to fill their numbers."
Nonsense and let me give you an example: during WWII some of my pacifist relatives did their military service equivalent as orderlies in stateside hospitals, freeing up others to serve on front lines.
That's what I'm talking about.
I'd also consider "Rosie the Riveter" an example of effective wartime use of women in roles they are imminently qualified to perform.
Of course there was no draft for them, but major wartime could easily require large groups of workers to be shifted among industries.
This list could go on, but the basic point is: with full voting-citizenship comes many responsibilities (i.e., jury duty) including military service if necessary.
You disagree?
It doesn't, and there were no Federal drafts during the Revolutionary War.
But some states did draft and others offered freedom to slaves who enlisted.
Perhaps the Constitution's clearest expression of Founders' Intent is the Second Amendment:
This was expanded by Founders in the Militia Acts of 1792:
"The Second Militia Act, passed May 8, 1792, provided for the organization of the state militias.
It conscripted every 'free able-bodied white male citizen' between the ages of 18 and 45 into a local militia company.
(This was later expanded to all males, regardless of race, between the ages of 18 and 54 in 1862.)"
Our Founders' Original Intent was that every "free able-bodied white male citizen between the ages of 18 and 45" would serve in their local militia, subject to call-up by their state or Federal government.
You disagree?
The draft gathers up young and not-so-young men and sometimes they end up in nice, cushy rear-area positions, but more often not they are sent to replace the killed and wounded in the front line. The army is infamous for pushing draftees into the infantry while the Regulars held the line in the Fulda Gap (Germany).
Women are disruptive when mixed in any unit with men in it (I know that that will offend some of the more sensitive among you, but I have been an investigator for the Marine Corps IG and seen a whole lot of criminal stupidity when glands overcame judgment and fear of the UCMJ).
I have admired many of the young women who have worn the uniform and I can understand perfectly their desire to serve but the male drives when they are present are devastating to morale, the mission, unit cohesion, and any pre-existing marriages.
On top of all that, you do realize that women get pregnant, right ? (unless you are at that point in your life where your Dad hasn't talked to you about it yet). You well-trained new serviceperson is now two (or more persons) and can't carry a pack. Can't lift ammunition boxes. Can't go on long patrols. And the unit can't come to a halt to let her feed the baby.
Worse, sometimes young women get pregnant on purpose to avoid deploying (again, my time in the IG investigating these things) and sometimes they get pregnant by just being available to the more persistent. If you have daughters, that ought to make the hair on the back of your neck start to rise.
My favorite deployment story was the much-heralded first deployment of the USS Vulcan in 1981, I think. Four of the young female seamen (?) communicators got pregnant intentionally to avoid going and at least four more got pregnant during the deployment, two of them allegedly by the Vulcan's Captain!
I do enjoy an occasional Libertarian rant but you are far afield on this issue.
"...The army is infamous for pushing draftees into the infantry while the Regulars held the line in the Fulda Gap (Germany)."
I was a draftee who served in the Fulda Gap.
There were no women in any unit I saw, so I cannot speak from experience about that.
I am saying there are now many roles women can & do fill effectively and could fill during major-wartime.
But the real roles I'd see are the ones I listed above -- filling in stateside & non-combat jobs to free up men for more dangerous work.
And if, under extreme circumstances, some women got drafted into such roles, that would simply be fulfilling their responsibilities as citizens of our Free Republic.
Of course I'd think staying home to raise babies equally valuable military work, but if I expressed such a thought (heaven forfend!) I'm afraid they'd lock me up in jail for it these days...
You disagree?
Yes I disagree that is not the meaning nor the understanding of it
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
Read about the right to bear arms
This was exactly why Phyllis Schlafly fought the equal rights amendment. She recognized this as just one of the planned attacks on the traditional family.
When she predicted they would be drafting our daughters, the news media laughed and called her crazy.
And by the way, how does simply registering for a draft increase the ranks? Any woman that wants to join can do as is. The only way the ranks increase is if the women are actually drafted - If both parents are drafted, who takes care of the children?
I personally believe in merit pay, whoever does the best job whatever their sex, ethnicity, or race should get the most money.
The second amendment merely says there must be a militia.
The Militia Acts of 1792 define what that militia is: all able bodied white male citizens 18 to 45.
Those were our Founders' Original Intent.
Do you oppose them?
Exactly
It doesn’t say that there must be a militia
Those were not the founders original intent
The right to self defense was a long standing right under English law
Read about it. Read the court decisions
But he's too old to be drafted!
Agree with what you say except for the “draft” part. I don’t believe for a minute that drafting women is a good idea. Women can contribute, as they are able - and do, without any prodding.
But as I mentioned before, the second the Clowns in Charge get the draft for women, they’ll put them wherever the mood strikes them and we don’t need young ladies trying to learn how to kill people. We had enough trouble getting young men to do the job ( and once they started, getting them to stop).
Women are primarily mothers and that’s what they were designed for. The current cuteness of convincing us otherwise is delusion.
You disagree?
You got a broken gear somewhere, buddy?
But if the SJWs *are* pushing for women in the military, we can't forget that the military already paid for gender reassignment under the Bamster.
More than a few non sequiturs in your responses my friend. Did you serve?
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