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To: imardmd1
1 Corinthians 2:10 (AV):

"But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God."

 

Revealed WHAT??


1 Corinthians 2 King James Version (KJV)

And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God.

For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling.

And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:

That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.

Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:

But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:

Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.



I'm not quite sure of what your superior translation is trying to say here that is so much better than what the NIV says?

                                                                                                  10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.       KJV

1 Corinthians 2:10 10these are the things God has revealed to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God.   NIV

 

210 posted on 11/18/2017 11:53:31 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Revealed WHAT??

One of the deep things revealed by the Spirit in the scripture testimony at least by the time the New Testament writing was finished, as to whether there is going to be Bible study in Heaven or not (which is the issue under consideration).

As I said before, improving your education on this will take some time and effort. But good that you ask questions.

211 posted on 11/18/2017 2:09:05 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Elsie
I'm not quite sure of what your superior translation is trying to say here that is so much better than what the NIV says?

Stop. There are two issues to deal with here, and they are as follows:

Issue 1: I thought you were using verse 9 to suggest that Christians in this life cannot know in advance some of the features of their activity in the afterlife, thus contesting my assertion that Study of the Scriptures will be a necessary activity in Heaven. Verse 10, AV or NIV, equivalently sums up the thrust of the chapter's context, which contrasts the spiritually mature man's knowledge of Godly matters versus the ignorance of the natural (soulish) man. Particularly, verse 10 negates the agnostic's view that humans in this life cannot know what will go on in heaven.

Issue 2: Examining the rendering of verse 9 by the NIV, I called into question its accuracy and its theology. First, it is a poor translation in that it supplies words not within the scope of the meaning of the Koine words it ought to be translating to the same meaning in English, and a grammatical structure not following the Koine sense. These are translational errors. Furthermore, the NIV's words and grammatical structure give an interpretation (which should not be the translator's task) that is inconsistent and contrary to the theology of the KJV's accurate translation of Verse 9. Verse 10 does not enter into settling this issue, only Verse 9, for which the KJV/AV rendering is far superior to the NIV's distortion of it.

In actuality, though for verse 10 the NIV supplies words not found in the Greek nor necessary to it (a translational no-no), the meaning is literally equivalent to that of the AV and the Greek for that verse. So pointing to that is a distraction from both of the above central considerations.

Exposition of the topic "Heavenly Bible study" is much more interesting to me. Let there be light, not just more heat, eh?

218 posted on 11/19/2017 4:05:27 AM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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