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Smarter people's brains have better wiring that helps with flow of information
Daily Mail ^ | 2 December 2017 | Daniel Roth

Posted on 12/02/2017 10:55:38 AM PST by mairdie

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To: mairdie

My husband had his IQ estimated at over 230


That is quite remarkable. The IQ scale is normalized at one standard deviation per 15 points: 120 is roughly 9% of the population, 130 is 2%, 140 is 0.4%, 150 is 0.04%, 160 is .003%, and 170 is .00015% (about 1 in a 600,000 people).

Anything above 160 is pretty much a crap shoot, and no generally recognized standardized IQ test even tries to measure above 180 (1 in 20 million people).

To have an IQ of 230, that works out to 8.67 standard deviations, or 2.225x10(-16) percent, which is 1 in 449 quadrillion people (1 in 449,483,457,956,756,989 people).

Given that the population of the Earth is roughly 7.4 billion (7,400,000,000) that seems a bit unlikely.

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=iq+230

Basically, any claim of an IQ above 190 (roughly 1 in a billion people) should be taken with a grain of salt.


41 posted on 12/02/2017 1:51:51 PM PST by Gideon7
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To: Gideon7

Only repeating what he was told. Who knows where the testers got their information back in the 50’s.

They pulled him out of public school and put him into the University of Chicago grammar school. He’s pretty typical of the IBM Research people we worked with. Digs down to China and not very practical. But he is completely supportive of me and there is nothing I’ve accomplished since we married that I could have done without him. I stopped the head of research after a talk on the pursuit of excellence and told him that I gave him what I had to and my hobbies everything. I asked if he could reverse that. Took me to lunch and gave me an international multimedia magazine. Husband came over at night and built a video studio around me, learning how to edit on 1” broadcast machines off the consoles, then teaching me. Eventually he hired in to the project, since he was working on it anyway. My field was computer languages, but people always said that his claim to fame was that he could pick up a new language instantly and immediately write in it in the way it was meant to be used. He’s actually pretty wonderful.


42 posted on 12/02/2017 2:08:40 PM PST by mairdie
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To: mairdie; Gideon7

Wow, an IQ of 230?

I bet he’s a lot of fun at parties.


43 posted on 12/02/2017 2:16:29 PM PST by Zeneta
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To: Zeneta

Not really. But he’s sweet, which counts for a lot.


44 posted on 12/02/2017 2:22:29 PM PST by mairdie
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To: Zeneta
Mostly he's fun if you're into talking computers. Paul with John Cocke at IBM Research when we were making the movie about John just after he won the Presidential award. John was an incredibly wonderful and eccentric computer scientist who invented RISC architecture.

45 posted on 12/02/2017 2:36:50 PM PST by mairdie
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To: MamaDearest

“Some people with high IQs don’t have an ounce of common sense.”

That’s me!


46 posted on 12/02/2017 2:42:34 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: American in Israel

I have a Chinese herbal doc. Really good results from his awful-tasting teas!


47 posted on 12/02/2017 2:44:49 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: Crucial

I agree with learning a new language. I think learning and practicing to play piano would be a hedge against Alzheimer’s as well. Maybe any musical instrument. I was forced, kindly, to learn the piano and violin as a child and teen and I know it was “good” for me. I gave my son a choice :) he went with the trumpet which he plays and loves to this day.

Listening to music changes a person. All sorts of music. Growing up in my family I was exposed to Broadway musicals, classical, opera, Benny Goodman and assorted big bands, a bit of old American folk and hymns. I look back with gratitude and appreciation toward my family. Though I can’t explain how, I believe this musical variety made my brain “smarter”.


48 posted on 12/02/2017 3:18:18 PM PST by SE Mom (Screaming Eagle mom)
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To: SE Mom

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Best hedge against Alzheimers is to consume more saturated fats, and eschew all polyunsaturated fats to allow uptake of chromium and vanadium, which in turn allows cells to utilize insulin completely.

Chronic elevated blood glucose appears to be a factor in many alzheimers cases.


49 posted on 12/02/2017 3:26:00 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: I want the USA back

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True, brains lack wires, but they do constantly move electrons along conductive paths.
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50 posted on 12/02/2017 3:31:15 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Interesting. I’ll look into it. I use real butter, and some olive oil. I don’t eat any processed foods to speak of.

I started taking tumeric/curcumin for arthritis and noticed my memory improved too. Nice side effect.


51 posted on 12/02/2017 3:39:45 PM PST by SE Mom (Screaming Eagle mom)
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To: SE Mom

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Yes, Tumeric is good, but don’t over-do it; it can be very irritating.

The coconut oil trick is becomming very popular because it yields visible improvement in a fairly short time. The blood glucose issues are less well defined.


52 posted on 12/02/2017 3:53:43 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: I want the USA back
"Brains are not wired. The metaphor is a failure. Computers in the 50’s were wired. Have to find another metaphor if you want to be understood."

Computers are no longer wired?

You, apparently, never built a prototype.

Or, do you not consider "printed wiring" to be "wiring"?

53 posted on 12/02/2017 7:18:11 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias | "Islamists": Satan's assassins | "Moderate Muslims": Useful idiots.)
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To: mairdie

I haven’t read the research but I can add something else that is important as well to the development of a child’s mind and that is playing games, whether we’re talking about card games, board games or even *gasp* some video games.

I’ve had to develop my own mind because of my attention, concentration and memory difficulties. It’s still a struggle and I become agitated when I can’t grasp concepts that come so easily to some. So I guess I have become sort of an informal expert in brain development all for the purpose of overcoming my diffulties in order to cope with the challenges of life.


54 posted on 12/02/2017 8:42:27 PM PST by Crucial
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To: mairdie

What should turn your blood cold is that the people you mention, particularly Pelosi and Hillary actually have minds operating at a high cognitive level. They know exactly how to manipulate their base almost into a killing frenzy. You’re average lib is fairly addled in the abstraction and logic department but their leaders are manipulative geniuses.


55 posted on 12/02/2017 8:50:03 PM PST by Crucial
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I really think you’re wrong about P and H. I think they’ve long passed the point where they’re improving cognitive function. At this point, I’d bet that they’re working on some level of instinct and that they’re being directed by staff, as Jarrett directed Obama. P and H still have the egos, so the manipulative skills are in the people working for them rather than in themselves.


56 posted on 12/02/2017 9:02:19 PM PST by mairdie
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To: SE Mom

> I was forced... to learn the piano... as a child.

I was too and hated it so as soon as possible (a few years) I quit. Now, some 50 years and change later I own MIDI keyboards and edit together multiple takes to get a tune that sounds OK from start to finish. It also proves the truism that the more one does something the easier it becomes. It’s nothing spectacular but I have fun doing it and a lot of time I think I’m spending 40 minutes it turns out to really be four hours.

> Listening to music changes a person. All sorts of music. Growing up in my family I was exposed to... I look back with gratitude and appreciation toward my family. Though I can’t explain how, I believe this musical variety made my brain “smarter”.

Likewise. My dad was a truck-driver and he brought home tons of records he got as gifts from a distributor on his route. I’m sure this reflects my current musical tastes to some degree although many of my favorite musical genres didn’t even exist in the 50’s...

Vocaloid, Classical, Epic! / Orchestral, ProgRock, FolkRock,
Classic Rock, Opera Metal / Orchestral Metal, EDM / Dubstep / Chillstep, Experimental Electronic / My own E.E., Polka, Classical Indian, Hot Jazz from the early 1900’s to about 1940 (Google “Radio Dismuke” Really good stuff), Big Band from the 30’s and 40’s.

I wonder what the above says about me ?


57 posted on 12/02/2017 10:18:09 PM PST by ADemocratNoMore (The Fourth Estate is now the Fifth Column)
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To: mairdie

The people who remain unable to differentiate between important and insignificant information will still be able to get well paying media jobs.


58 posted on 12/02/2017 10:25:13 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: American in Israel

Oh well I guess it’s better than the last study on the length of rat genitalia.


As in Democrat? Because they sure do wave those things around a lot. At least we have that Barton guy. Though from the dough boy pic we may not have much to work with.


59 posted on 12/02/2017 10:26:50 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: luckystarmom

Wonderful. When you say six week old illness, do you mean she was older and had an illness for 6 weeks, or she sustained an illness at her 6 weeks age of life? Either way, how wonderful that she’s doing so well.

My son with special needs has great gaps in his functioning and has surprised us more than once with feats of progress. Each child is such a miracle.


60 posted on 12/02/2017 10:30:00 PM PST by Yaelle
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