California may buck Congress with its own health insurance requirement

San Jose Mercury ^ | January 22, 2018 | Elizabeth Aguilera

[artichokegrower]

With Congress ending the requirement that all Americans have health insurance, California leaders are preparing to counter that move by securing health care for as many residents as possible in a fortified state insurance exchange.

[artichokegrower]

The outcome may or may not include a state version of the mandate the federal government repealed, effective next year.

So who will pay this fine for not having health insurance in California? Not the 14 million Californian on Medi-Cal, not the millions of public employees, and definitely not the millions of illegal aliens in the state.

[Da Coyote]

Please, oh please do it, Mexifornia.
We really do want to watch your collapse on tv.

[silverleaf]

” fortified” by what?
Or should I say “ who”?
Looks like the price of raisins is going up

[Rurudyne]

A State law, while not necessarily one I agree with in any way, is still not a federal law with no delegated power for it.

It will be interesting to see how California deals with persons or businesses from out of State that occasionally do work in California.

[beef]

They have a special unit that collects taxes from sports teams when they play in CA. It would not surprise me if they tried to collect taxes and impose their insanity on anyone who sets foot, even for a minute in their state.

[Redwood71]

Didn’t they learn anything from the Obamacare financial meltdown. And they don’t have the backup funds to “steal” from to keep a program like this alive. And who determines who will be given the coverage? Does the middle class have to foot the bill for as far as they can go until they become the poor like those they will support?

California may be on the right track here. They have been trying to make their citizens completely dependent on the government since the 6o’s. They may have found the way. They have finally realized they won’t get the top 2%. But they don’t need them if they can, literally, capture the other 98% financially with a unworkable healthcare system that will strap the 98%. And they admit the damn thing is dead in the water already by saying they will cover as many as they can. Ooohh but liberals are stupid. But apparently not as stupid as their voters who buy this crap. Baaaaaa sheep.

rwood

[Rurudyne]

All the more reason to just sail on by without stopping should I ever have a cruising boat.

[eyeamok]

So who will pay this fine for not having health insurance in California?

You and Me!

It might be that time to incorporate and reduce my salary to $25k a year to avoid all this crap???

[chuckee]

California’s current demographics put it on a unobstructed path to complete internal destruction.Not only are they redistributing to unproductive citizens living within the state for votes but they are also redistributing to unproductive non citizens living within. Legislature is looking to impose a surcharge on businesses to claw back half the tax savings the new federal tax bill gives them for “social programs”.I just do not want the rest of the nation paying for the left coast cancer

[Nifster]

Just like Vermont they will find out it will double the budget

[cymbeline]

“It might be that time to incorporate and reduce my salary to $25k a year to avoid all this crap???”

How does that work? Sounds interesting and also too good to be true.

[DaxtonBrown]

They will have their own version of Obamacare, they lost deductability of state taxes, their solar mandate will kick energy prices to te moon in a couple years.Taxpayers need a kick me sign to wear.

[hanamizu]

They have a special unit that collects taxes from sports teams when they play in CA.

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To be fair, every state with an income tax does the same thing. But the California Franchise Tax Board seems to go to ridiculous (and sometimes illegal) lengths to wring as much blood from the turnip as they can. But hey, someone has to pay for the high-speed train to nowhere.

[Amendment10]

Thank you for referencing that article artichokegrower. Please note that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

While Sen. Schumer continues to rant in defense of his anti-Trump shutdown, please consider the following from related threads …

Why is California singling out healthcare insurance?

California lawmakers need to wake up to the fed’s constitutionally limited powers, including limited power to appropriate taxes, and work with the rest of the states to support Pres. Trump in leading the states to repeal the 16th & ill-conceived 17th Amendments.

In fact, a previous generation of state sovereignty-respecting Supreme Court justices, a constitutional lawmaker and other sources, had clarified Congress’s limited power to appropriate taxes as follows.

• “Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

• "State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress [emphases added]." —Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

• ”... the care of the property, the liberty, and the life of the citizen, under the solemn sanction of an oath imposed by your Federal Constitution, is in the States, and not in the Federal Government [emphases added].” —Rep. John Bingham, Congressional Globe, 1866. (See about middle of 3rd column.)

• ”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.

• "The smart crooks long ago figured out that getting themselves elected to federal office to make unconstitutional tax laws to fill their pockets is a much easier way to make a living than robbing banks." —me

• "Federal career lawmakers probably laugh all the way to the bank to deposit bribes for putting loopholes for the rich and corporations in tax appropriations laws, Congress actually not having the express constitutional authority to make most appropriations laws where domestic policy is concerned. Such laws are based on stolen state powers and uniquely associated stolen state revenues." —me

After Trump and the states put a stop to unconstitutional federal taxes, the states will probably find a tsunami of new state revenues (higher state taxes) that they probably won’t know what to do with.

For starters, each state could establish its own custom healthcare and retirement programs, increase funding for public schools, police and fire departments, and repair infrastructure, ultimately depending on what services the legal majority voters of a given state want.

The remedy …

Patriots need to finish the job that they started in the 2016 elections when they elected Trump president.

More specifically, patriots now need to be making sure that there are plenty of Trump-supporting, state sovereignty-respecting patriot candidates on the 2018 primary ballots, and pink-slip career lawmakers by sending patriot candidate lawmakers to DC on election day.

And until the states wake up and repeal the 16th & 17th Amendments, as evidenced by concerns about the integrity of Alabama's special Senate election, patriot candidates need to win elections by a large enough margin to compensate for possible deep state ballot box fraud and associated MSM scare tactics.

Hacking Democracy - The Hack

Also, consider that repealing the 17th Amendment will effectively secede all the states from the corrupt federal government imo. (Are you listening Gov. Brown?)