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The military keeps encountering UFOs. Why doesn’t the Pentagon care?
WaPo ^ | March 9, 2018 | Christopher Mellon

Posted on 03/12/2018 7:10:45 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

In December, the Defense Department declassified two videos documenting encounters between U.S. Navy F-18 fighters and unidentified aircraft. The first video captures multiple pilots observing and discussing a strange, hovering, egg-shaped craft, apparently one of a “fleet” of such objects, according to cockpit audio. The second shows a similar incident involving an F-18 attached to the USS Nimitz carrier battle group in 2004.

The videos, along with observations by pilots and radar operators, appear to provide evidence of the existence of aircraft far superior to anything possessed by the United States or its allies. Defense Department officials who analyze the relevant intelligence confirm more than a dozen such incidents off the East Coast alone since 2015. In another recent case, the Air Force launched F-15 fighters last October in a failed attempt to intercept an unidentified high-speed aircraft looping over the Pacific Northwest .

A third declassified video, released by To the Stars Academy of Arts and Science , a privately owned media and scientific research company to which I’m an adviser, reveals a previously undisclosed Navy encounter that occurred off the East Coast in 2015.

Is it possible that America has been technologically leap-frogged by Russia or China? Or, as many people wondered after the videos were first published by the New York Times in December, might they be evidence of some alien civilization?

Unfortunately, we have no idea, because we aren’t even seeking answers.

I served as deputy assistant secretary of defense for intelligence for the Clinton and George W. Bush administrations and as staff director for the Senate Intelligence Committee, and I know from numerous discussions with Pentagon officials over the past two years that military departments and agencies treat such incidents as isolated events rather than as part of a pattern requiring serious attention and investigation.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Military/Veterans; UFO's
KEYWORDS: aatip; davidfravor; fringe; nimitzencounters; ohsomysteriouso; sanclemente; santacatalina; thenimitzencounters; tictac; ufo; ufos
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To: RoosterRedux
UFO author Jacques Vallee - among others - believed that UFO's are more akin to "daimons" - they are an occult phenomenon manifesting physically - than to physical spaceships from some other galaxy.

He believed that they were consciously intending to alter public opinion on a variety of issues, and that the best way to determine that influence was to study the beliefs and attitudes that people derive or construct from the UFO phenomenon.

UFO's would thus primarily be of interest as a psy-ops phenomenon, not as a physical threat
21 posted on 03/12/2018 7:32:35 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Doogle

I did not see the movie... And... I DO NOT know what I saw. But I know what I did not see.


22 posted on 03/12/2018 7:33:53 AM PDT by Bitman
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To: RoosterRedux

Now that he is working for the CIA, you would have figured they would have clued him it?


23 posted on 03/12/2018 7:35:52 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Build The Wall !! Jail The Cankle !!)
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To: RoosterRedux

Darn. I was beginning to think there might be something to this, but if the WaPo (to them, science is a really big word associated with these complicated unreadable Greek thingies strung together) supports it, one knows with no doubt that it is pure cr*p.


24 posted on 03/12/2018 7:38:12 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: JimRed

“...’Cause they’re OURS? ...”

BINGO!!!!


25 posted on 03/12/2018 7:38:25 AM PDT by budj (combat vet, 2nd of 3 generations)
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To: Bitman

That’s how the Big foot goes and comes at its leisure.


26 posted on 03/12/2018 7:39:30 AM PDT by spincaster
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To: Da Coyote

Check out the author’s bio. He’s a former deputy assistant secretary of defense for intelligence.


27 posted on 03/12/2018 7:41:29 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Churchill: Success is not final, failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts.)
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To: JimRed

Very likely.
And sea-skimming just above the waves, Tomahawk missile possibly.


28 posted on 03/12/2018 7:49:45 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: RoosterRedux

The Washing Compost wants me to pay $1 to read the article? Ain’t gonna happen.


29 posted on 03/12/2018 7:50:22 AM PDT by McGruff (It's time to investigate the investigators)
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To: RoosterRedux; All
This came up yesterday.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3638834/posts

If you listen to the voices, they are laughing at this and pretending they don't know what it is. Kind of like, Gee, I wonder what that is, ha, ha!

A number of votes for a bird. Maybe this albatross with 7 foot wingspan:

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/fastest-bird-level-flight

30 posted on 03/12/2018 7:51:46 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Kill: Hollywood,google,CNN,TWITTER,FACEBOOK,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antifa,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA)
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31 posted on 03/12/2018 7:57:38 AM PDT by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: RoosterRedux

There are three distinct possibilities that I can reckon, and possibly combinations or variations of each, but for all three, the same official outward policy or posture would apply, so it’s difficult to distinguish which;

1) These are very advanced technologies of domestic origin.
In this case, the engagement and intelligence gathering would not be encouraged. But the outward posture would be to acknowledge as little as possible.

2) These are advanced technologies of a foreign military or (cue the xfiles theme) extraterrestrial origin.
In this case, engagement and intelligence gathering would not be discouraged as much, but for the most part probably done by compartmentalized assets.

3) This is all counter-intelligence intended to mislead or confuse foreign intelligence interests and it’s not at all what it appears to be. In this case significant intelligence gathering would be discouraged, and the release or leaks or publishing of various information would be executed by specific assets. Still, the official outward posture would be to acknowledge very little.


32 posted on 03/12/2018 8:03:28 AM PDT by z3n
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To: BuffaloJack

People (even qualified military personnel) want to believe in UFOs from outer space.

Note that the vast majority of UFO sightings began to happen, en mass AFTER 1945.

Hmmmm, why 1945?

There was this new technology called the JET engine being tested in the Western deserts with all kinds of Black projects during the Cold War.

Since then, the USAF and other do a lot of testing on secret programs.

That’s all their is to it.

I have yet to see a clear, crisp picture of a UFO. For some funny reason they’re always blurry, fuzzy or unclear or moving at “warp” speed...

There may be life out there but all these claims are designed to make money folks.


33 posted on 03/12/2018 8:08:27 AM PDT by Netz ( and looking for a way ti IMPROVE mankind.)
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To: ml/nj

At approximately 16:15 CST on Tuesday, November 7, 2006, federal authorities at Chicago O’Hare International Airport received a report that a group of twelve airport employees were witnessing a metallic, saucer-shaped craft hovering over Gate C-17.

The object was first spotted by a ramp employee who was pushing back United Airlines Flight 446, which was departing Chicago for Charlotte, North Carolina. The employee apprised
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_O%27Hare_International_Airport_UFO_sighting

Flight 446’s crew of the object above their aircraft. It is believed that both the pilot and co-pilot also witnessed the object.

Several independent witnesses outside of the airport also saw the object. One described a “blatant” disc-shaped craft hovering over the airport which was “obviously not clouds.” According to this witness, nearby observers gasped as the object shot through the clouds at high velocity, leaving a clear blue hole in the cloud layer.[1] The hole reportedly seemed to close itself shortly afterward.


34 posted on 03/12/2018 8:49:38 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrats want to get rid of ICE to 'protect' illegals & to Hell with Americans. - SunkenCiv)
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To: Steve_Seattle
"...UFO's are more akin to "daimons" - they are an occult phenomenon manifesting physically..."

That's the way I've read this for the last 20 or so years.
I could go on, but I won't....

35 posted on 03/12/2018 9:12:20 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("I will now proceed to entangle the entire area".)
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To: Psalm 73; Steve_Seattle

Absolutely they are. Probably more like demons than daimons.


36 posted on 03/12/2018 9:25:47 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Churchill: Success is not final, failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts.)
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To: ml/nj

“If military planes encounter these things wouldn’t commercial and/or private aircraft encounter them also?”

I’m slowly working on my license. I and many commercial pilots have seen “things”. They are usually far too fast and small to capture with any camera.

Once I roughly timed one and did a rough calculation of how fast it cleared the horizon. The object was moving several times faster than any known aircraft or missile. The ones I’ve seen zoomed very straight and very fast. Other pilots have seen objects that did 90-180 degree turns with no visible radius or change in velocity.


37 posted on 03/12/2018 9:30:33 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: GOPJ

It appears you are familiar with the UFO history. What I am seeing with the TTS releases are that they continue to be flawed.

“A third declassified video, released by To the Stars Academy of Arts and Science , a privately owned media and scientific research company to which I’m an adviser, reveals a previously undisclosed Navy encounter that occurred off the East Coast in 2015.”

The above excerpt of his statement is a perfect example of the problem. This third release was released the year it took place. If you search YouTube for “Go Fast UFO” you will find one which reveals it was already on YouTube on the site of a movie producer that specializes in fringe issues. He did movie about the removal of an “implant”.

As a result, TTS is destroying any credibility they should have considering the pedigree of the board members. The more respected voices in the “community” will not support them as they have been burned so many times by disinformation. People have died due to their disinformation efforts.

The “general” public is NOT going to respond to these types of releases. Just look at most of the post on this thread so far.

It appears to me that a small group set up to assist a couple of Senators with a small (22 million over 5 years)sweetheart deal for Bigelo has morphed into a “Disclosure” program which is morphing into a disinformation program.

I think when the PTB saw a blue ribbon board headed by a Rock Star was only able to raise 2.5 million to build star ships based on E.T. technology, they understood that short of the Saucer on the White House lawn, the vast majority of U.S. citizens will refuse to accept it. Even then, I think most Americans would think anything they see themselves will be discounted as our own advanced technology, including holograms, advanced aircraft, etc.


38 posted on 03/12/2018 9:30:53 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: varyouga
I’m slowly working on my license.

What does that mean?

I've got my "license." (SEL, IFR) I'm not active anymore. But the only time I saw something coming toward me at "warp speed" it was an F-14 that had just taken off from the old Grumman facility near Calverton, LI.

ML/NJ

39 posted on 03/12/2018 9:39:43 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: JimRed

If they are ours, why would the military keep reporting these alleged top secret aircraft and then turn around and declassify the reports/videos, if they’re indeed our own top secret aircraft?


40 posted on 03/12/2018 10:11:14 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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