[ProgressingAmerica]

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[Telepathic Intruder]

“progressive” is a relative term, depending on what the goal is. To the modern day progressive, it’s socialism. The trading of individual liberty for economic security, enforced by an all-powerful yet benign government. The last is the tricky part, since it’s a general rule that power corrupts. Insanity always emerges when socialism and communism are put into practice, because it simply cannot work in the real world, even after killing the millions of people who dissent.

[dsc]

If you read Barzun’s Dawn to Decadence, you will see that this filth has tried to erupt time and again over the last 500 years.

I don’t believe it as ever before grown to this extent, though.

[WayneS]

Woodrow Wilson expressed a good bit of bitterness against blacks.

[loveliberty2]

The "The Psychology of Progressive Hostility" is cited above. Some thoughts:

"A man who lies to himself, and believes his own lies becomes unable to recognize truth, either in himself or in anyone else, and he ends up losing respect for himself and for others. When he has no respect for anyone, he can no longer love, and, in order to divert himself, having no love in him, he yields to his impulses, indulges in the lowest forms of pleasure, and behaves in the end like an animal. And it all comes from lying - lying to others and to yourself." - Dostoevsky

"If there is no God, everything is possible." - Dostoevsky Fyodor Dostoevsky

[Paladin2]

Inside the head of every libtard resides a fascist trying to get out.

[Teacher317]

Does anyone have a decent list of the nations that Leftism destroyed in the 20th Century, using roughly the same slogans, timelines, methods, and end results?

[Ciaphas Cain]

Progressives were hostile in the streets of Paris during the 1790s. They were hostile in Moscow in 1917. They were hostile in Cambodia sixty years after that.

Progressives are ALWAYS hostile. And if they seize power, they are quite murderous.

[PGalt]

Thanks for posting.

Putrid socialists, progressives, punks, PsOS, deceivers, thugs, inchoates, internationalists, malcontents, marxists, scumbags, criminals, collectivists, conmen totalitarians, tyrants etc., etc., hate America. They are more emboldened than ever. They have one thing in common. They are sick in the head.

[Some Fat Guy in L.A.]

Occam’s Razor says that the simplest theory that fits the facts is probably best. I’ll go with satanic hatred over this psychological stuff.

[Mafe]

I think the reason for their hostility is that they know their arguments are weak and their positions can’t be defended. That was true of socialists then and now, true of LGBT zealots, black racists, feminists, atheists, Muslims, etc. Wilson and TR weren’t bitter because they didn’t try and deny the biological reality of 2 genders, amongst other things. Back then progressivism was merely an economic ideology. Now it’s become an entire religion.

I’ve been hostile in discussions before too but on the opposite side. Whenever I was not adequately informed of my side’s arguments, I just became hostile and malicious toward my opponent because I didn’t want to look weak and like a loser, and had nothing else to resort to.

My solution? Avoid debates altogether. That and stick to your principles. Whatever the left says to argue against liberty, I simply remember that I believe in liberty for liberty’s sake. If owning guns makes us less safe, privately-run healthcare shortens our lives, and having a large carbon footprint keeps the planet on course for destruction, so be it. I’d rather be free.

[Kickass Conservative]

There is nothing progressive about Progressivism.

[loveliberty2]

Thank you, Rocky, for your response to my original post. The thought occurs that whereas the 1787 U. S. Constitution's philosophical basis--as expressly laid out in the 1776 Declaration of Independence--was formed and framed on the "natural law" foundation--is, and was, anathema to the Progressive movement from the beginning.

Their rejection of the Framers' premise continues to control their lack of vision, and their totalitarian Progressive ideology's control over the minds of its cultist followers.

"Man ... must necessarily be subject to the laws of his Creator.. This will of his Maker is called the law of nature.... This law of nature...is of course superior to any other.... No human laws are of any validity, if contrary to this: and such of them as are valid derive all their force...from this original." - Sir William Blackstone (Eminent English Jurist)

The Founders DID NOT establish the Constitution for the purpose of granting rights. Rather, they established this government of laws (not a government of men) in order to secure each person's Creator­ endowed rights to life, liberty, and property. Only in America, did a nation's founders recognize that rights, though endowed by the Creator as unalienable prerogatives, would not be sustained in society unless they were protected under a code of law which was itself in harmony with a higher law. They called it "natural law," or "Nature's law." Such law is the ultimate source and established limit for all of man's laws and is intended to protect each of these natural rights for all of mankind.

The Declaration of Independence of 1776 established the premise that in America a people might assume the station "to which the laws of Nature and Nature's God entitle them.." Herein lay the security for men's individual rights - an immut­able code of law, sanctioned by the Creator of man's rights, and designed to promote, preserve, and protect him and his fellows in the enjoyment of their rights. They believed that such natural law, revealed to man through his reason, was capable of being understood by both the plowman and the professor. Sir William Blackstone, whose writings trained American's lawyers for its first century, capsulized such reasoning:

"For as God, when he created matter, and endued it with a principle of mobility, established certain rules for the...direction of that motion; so, when he created man, and endued him with freewill to conduct himself in all parts of life, he laid down certain immutable laws of human nature, whereby that freewill is in some degree regulated and restrained, and gave him also the faculty of reason to discover the purport of those laws."

What are those natural laws? Blackstone continued:

"Such among others are these principles: that we should live honestly, should hurt nobody, and should render to every one his due.."

The Founders saw these as moral duties between individuals. Thomas Jefferson wrote:

"Man has been subjected by his Creator to the moral law, of which his feelings, or conscience as it is sometimes called, are the evidence with which his Creator has furnished him .... The moral duties which exist between individual and individual in a state of nature, accompany them into a state of society. their Maker not having released them from those duties on their forming themselves into a nation."

Americas leaders of 1787 had studied Cicero, Polybius, Coke, Locke, Montesquieu, and Blackstone, among others, as well as the history of the rise and fall of governments, and they recognized these underlying principles of law as those of the Decalogue, the Golden Rule, and the deepest thought of the ages. An example of the harmony of natural law and natural rights is Blackstone's "that we should live honestly" - otherwise known as "thou shalt not steal" - whose corresponding natural right is that of individual freedom to acquire and own, through honest initiative, private property. In the Founders' view, this law and this right were unalterable and of a higher order than any written law of man. Thus, the Constitution confirmed the law and secured the right and bound both individuals and their representatives in government to a moral code which did not permit either to take the earnings of another without his consent. Under this code, individuals could not band together and do, through government's coercive power, that which was not lawful between individuals.

America's Constitution is the culmination of the best reasoning of men of all time and is based on the most profound and beneficial values mankind has been able to fathom. It is, as William E. Gladstone observed, "The Most Wonderful Work Ever Struck Off At A Given Time By the Brain And Purpose Of Man." We should dedicate ourselves to rediscovering and preserving an understanding of our Constitution's basis in natural law for the protec­tion of natural rights - principles which have provided American citizens with more protection for individual rights, while guaranteeing more freedom, than any people on earth.

"The end of law is not to abolish or restrain, but to preserve and enlarge freedom."-John Locke

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Footnote:  Our Ageless Constitution, W. David Stedman & La Vaughn G. Lewis, Editors (Asheboro, NC, W. David Stedman Associates, 1987) Part III:  ISBN 0-937047-01-5