Posted on 04/20/2018 10:30:40 AM PDT by Simon Green
“Using a bump stock basically means you’ve lost control of your weapon. That’s how it works.”
I agree, a binary trigger is a better choice for maintaining control under rapid fire conditions.
The AR is a fine platform. But, I agree with you: For me, in a home defense situation I’d go with the Mossberg 500 with 00-Buck and either a .38/.357 maqnum or a Glock 19 in 9mm. However, I would not feel uncomfortable using an AR.
Sir, sorry but the over-penetration belief is just not true- unless you have some unusual 556 ammo.
Fact is, the standard fodder of 55 grain FMJ from a carbine fragments into many pieces, perhaps two of which weigh more than 10 -15 grains. A soft shatters even more completely, a varmint round after all.
Even heavy 77/75 grain offerings are very good at coming apart after minor contact with stuff like drywall and frame construction.
I suppose the sound of a pump shotgun is awe-inspiring, but so would the very well known and unique sound of the bolt-carrier group of an AR closing a round into the chamber- but that is just theatrics.
it is very well known that buckshot loadings of #4 through 000 penetrate interior walls very well- and of course, one must aim carefully with either- at conversational distances, the 12 ga and 556 need to actually be pointed at and hit the center of something IoT work.
I suggest perusing the net and seeking facts regarding the 556 and 12 buck in home defense scenarios.
Granted, one solid hit with either should be a fight-stopper- both deliver upwards of 1300-1500 ft-lbs of either individual or combined projectile energy.
Google 556 wounds and you will be amazed- the little 556 really works.
The 556 carbine weighing in at 6 lbs , 7 loaded with a 30 rnd mag has virtually no recoil and follow-up is easy, compared to the recoil of the 6-7 lb 12 ga pump loaded with 4-7 2 3/4 in rounds.
Don’t get me wrong, I would pick up either if needed ( and have indeed), nor would I want to be hit with either.
Another given- the 556 carbine with dot optics is useful from 0- 200m, while the 12 ga loaded with buck is useful to 50 m..... You never know.
All stated, I carry a handgun starting with a “.4X” to get to my carbine.
Concluding, the guy who fired 30+ 556 rounds needs training.... both in marksmanship, tactics and fire discipline....
Looks like a boy band. Had to laugh when I saw the dead perp was named Corey. RIP, dumbass. .
Thanks, ctdonath2. You are correct. Not much spread - and Simon, I never said it was a big spread, but even a few inches wide circle is a lot more that a .223 bullet... A 2-inch miss with the rifle is a hit with the shotgun.
But I’ll use whatever’s handy, believe me.
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