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Controversial US bishop raises eyebrows in the chapel and sets social media alight with bizarre [tr]
UK Daily Mail ^ | May 19, 2018 | Hannah Parry

Posted on 05/19/2018 5:17:17 AM PDT by C19fan

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To: C19fan

Jeremiah 8:22: Is there no balm in Gilead?

A balm is an ointment or salve to alleviate pain. It is not a BOMB. Such is the ignorance of the Bible among the scribblers in the news media.


21 posted on 05/19/2018 6:32:35 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Gideon7

That’s your opinion.....it was cringeworthy to me so that I muted it....and I love the Gospel

Perhaps his emphasis on ‘social Gospel’.....transgender & gay ideology plus his hatred for my President colored my opinion !


22 posted on 05/19/2018 6:34:37 AM PDT by Guenevere (The wrath of God has come upon them at last.....)
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To: Slyfox

Visited my Mom at the assisted living center. The dayroom TV was set to the royal wedding, and the mostly black staff was devoting every spare second to watching the ceremonies.

I walked over to watch some myself while that windbag was carrying on, and realized why the staff was so interested; NBC pulled closeup on every black face & it was clearly the most Africanized wedding ever in that cathedral. Then there was the black cello player (very good, btw) and a score of black ladies whose hats did not look like the satellite dishes worn by the white women.

All in all, a very multicultural & diverse royal wedding. And was that a turbaned imam reciting the Lord’s Prayer!?


23 posted on 05/19/2018 6:36:46 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: Gideon7

What I would have given to see the Queen stand up and say- “ Very well, enough now, sir. Let us proceed with this wedding!” Everyone was thinking it.


24 posted on 05/19/2018 6:37:49 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (ISLAM is the problem. ISLAM is the enemy of civilization.)
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To: C19fan

I liked his message. But, raised and eye brow about the fire and texting as well.


25 posted on 05/19/2018 6:41:43 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: kevao
Or maybe she did not feel she should start the marriage with a lie.

When we were working out ours "obey" was brought up and my husband to be cracked "She will as long as she thinks I am being reasonable".

I could not argue and obey was left out.

26 posted on 05/19/2018 6:42:23 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Bunnies, bunnies, it must be bunnies!! Or maybe midgets....)
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To: Guenevere

What was wrong with his message about love?


27 posted on 05/19/2018 6:43:16 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: Guenevere

Perhaps his emphasis on ‘social Gospel’.....transgender & gay ideology plus his hatred for my President colored my opinion !


He might be all SJW at his home pulpit but he wasn’t today. A couple lines were off when he rambled - “.. businesses need to love too” was the one I remembered.


28 posted on 05/19/2018 6:59:48 AM PDT by Gideon7
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To: HollyB
Love is not speaking in half-truths (Faith and observance is a condition of love which God desires, butchered the meaning/context of 1 Corinthians 13:4-7 with h/t) , which a lot of this sermon was involved in. Of course, everything must have a "do what thou wilt..., love unconditionally" for the occasion and the secular audience, so an "Easter Homily" tone to this event.

Did not see the Homily, just read the transcript, probably should watch for the laughs from the mannerisms.
29 posted on 05/19/2018 7:07:03 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: elcid1970
And was that a turbaned imam reciting the Lord’s Prayer!?

No, that was an Orthodox bishop.

30 posted on 05/19/2018 7:15:39 AM PDT by Da_Shrimp
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To: Rushmore Rocks
His 14 minute address was 13 minutes too long.

Wow, that address was only 14 minutes?? It felt like at least an hour and a half... :-(

31 posted on 05/19/2018 7:19:04 AM PDT by nutmeg (If Jim Acosta acts up in Singapore, will he get caned?)
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To: HollyB

His message was fine, but it went on way, way too long. The fire and automobiles, planes, texting, etc. was ridiculous though.


32 posted on 05/19/2018 7:21:25 AM PDT by nutmeg (If Jim Acosta acts up in Singapore, will he get caned?)
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To: Gideon7

“How does St. Paul say it?

Love is not jealous, rude, or boastful. Love does not insist on its own way. Love is unselfish, sacrificial, kind and just.

Love seeks the good and the well-being of the other. Love makes room and space for the other to be. (See 1 Corinthians 13:4-7)

This love, this is the way of Jesus. And it’s game changer.

Imagine our homes and families when this way of love is the way. Imagine our neighborhoods and communities when love is the way. Imagine our governments and countries when love is the way. Imagine business and commerce when this love is the way. Imagine our world when love is the way.

No child would go to bed hungry in such a world as that. Poverty would become history in such a world as that. The earth would be as a sanctuary in such a world as that.

We would treat one another as children of God, regardless of differences. We would learn how to lay our swords and shields down by the riverside to study war no more.

There would be a new heaven, a new earth, a new world. A new and beautiful human family.

The very dream of God.

Love is strong as death. It’s flashes are flashes of fire. Many waters cannot quench love.”

As the Beatles so eloquently put it:

There’s nothing you can do that can’t be done
Nothing you can sing that can’t be sung
Nothing you can say but you can learn how to play the game
It’s easy

Nothing you can make that can’t be made
No one you can save that can’t be saved
Nothing you can do but you can learn how to be you in time
It’s easy

All you need is love
All you need is love
All you need is love, love
Love is all you need

Love, love, love
Love, love, love
Love, love, love

All you need is love
All you need is love
All you need is love, love
Love is all you need


OK. The dude in the funny outfit didn’t start singing a Beatles song. But he totally screws things up, turning “God is love” into “Love is God.”

As CS Lewis put it: “We may give our human loves the unconditional allegiance which we owe only to God. They they become gods: then they become demons. Then they will destroy us, and also destroy themselves. For natural loves that are allowed to become gods do not remain loves. They are still called so, but can become in fact complicated forms of hatred...

...St. John’s saying that God is love has long been balanced in my mind against the remark of a modern author (M. Denis de Rougemont) that “love ceases to be a demon only when he ceases to be a god”; which of course can be re-stated in the form “begins to be a demon the moment he begins to be a god”. This balance seems to me an indispensable safeguard. If we ignore it the truth that God is love may slyly come to mean for us the converse, that love is God.”

Another writer put it this way:

A fourth misunderstanding about love is the confusion between “God is love” and “love is God.” The worship of love instead of the worship of God involves two deadly mistakes. First it uses the word God only as another word for love. God is thought of as a force or energy rather than as a person. Second, it divinizes the love we already know instead of showing us a love we don’t know.

To understand this point, consider that “A is B” does not mean the same as “A equals B.” If A = B, then B = A, but if A is B, that does not mean that B is A. “That house is wood” does not mean “wood is that house.” “An angel is spirit” does not mean the same as “spirit is an angel.” When we say “A is B”, we begin with a subject, A, that we assume our hearer already knows, and then we add a new predicate to it. “Mother is sick” means “You know mother well, let me tell you something you don’t know about her: she’s sick.”

So “God is love” means “Let me tell you something new about the God you know: he is essential love, made of love, through and through.” But “Love is God” means “Let me tell you something about the love you already know, your own human love: that is God. That is the ultimate reality. That is as far as anything can ever go. Seek no further for God.”

In other words, “God is love” is the profoundest thing we have ever heard. But “love is God” is deadly nonsense.


33 posted on 05/19/2018 7:22:37 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: oblomov

It’s getting to be the creed of all religious institutions that were formerly bulwarks of morality in society.


34 posted on 05/19/2018 7:40:10 AM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd ( Flag burners can go screw -- I'm mighty PROUD of that ragged old flag)
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To: Mr Rogers

Insightful observation, thanks.


35 posted on 05/19/2018 7:53:41 AM PDT by Gideon7
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To: C19fan
Personally, I'd rather watch reruns of Amos 'n' Andy.
 
36 posted on 05/19/2018 8:04:17 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (MAGA in the mornin', MAGA in the evenin', MAGA at suppertime . . .)
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To: C19fan

I watched about 15 seconds, saw the crazy and changed the channel.


37 posted on 05/19/2018 8:27:22 AM PDT by tiki
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To: Slyfox

He certainly had a wing span like one trying to elevate himself off the stage! LOLOL Unfortunately a great distraction, you certainly weren’t alone in muting him.
He could have had Jackson playing “We are the world” for his sermon and it would have been more than enough from his position on Love.


38 posted on 05/19/2018 8:28:29 AM PDT by caww
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To: Gideon7

It wasn’t what he was delivering as much as how he delivered it...show time doesn’t say enough. I had to mute him and I am a Christian.


39 posted on 05/19/2018 8:33:16 AM PDT by caww
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To: maddogtiger

Harry’s not exactly a great catch.....without his Royalty megan would not have given him a second look..that’s pretty apparent. Two dates and he whisked her off to Africa for a week...”whirlwind” says it well.


40 posted on 05/19/2018 8:35:56 AM PDT by caww
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