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Warriors sweep Cavaliers to claim second straight NBA championship and third in four seasons (tr)
Washington Post ^ | June 8, 2018 | Tim Bontemps

Posted on 06/08/2018 9:02:19 PM PDT by EdnaMode

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To: morphing libertarian
he’s the sun and we just all revolve around him.

I think that is true. In the NBA "one guy star" teams will not win. It is the coach's job to get big egos to play well together. That is what the GS team does. Cavilers did not stand a chance.

61 posted on 06/09/2018 6:36:19 AM PDT by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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To: Az Joe

Time to remember, its just a game. Nothing more.


62 posted on 06/09/2018 6:41:02 AM PDT by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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To: Night Hides Not
LBJ landing in Houston will derail the dynasty.

Interesting thought. It would depend on if LBJ could play as a team member, or does the Houston team become a one man show like the Cavaliers.

63 posted on 06/09/2018 6:45:41 AM PDT by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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To: Vermont Lt

Exactly


64 posted on 06/09/2018 6:54:03 AM PDT by Az Joe (Gloria in excelsis Deo)
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To: EdnaMode

Congratulations Golden State. Too much versatile weaponry for most teams to handle. Quite an assemblage of highly skilled talent. The individuals work very unselfishly together.

Impressive.


65 posted on 06/09/2018 7:38:58 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: bramps

Yup. He is a poor sport and a bad leader.


66 posted on 06/09/2018 8:00:13 AM PDT by EdnaMode
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To: Mozzafiato

Houston had Golden State beaten this year, if not for losing Chris Paul in game 5.

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Truth


67 posted on 06/09/2018 8:24:30 AM PDT by freedom1st
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To: Mozzafiato
Houston had Golden State beaten this year, if not for losing Chris Paul in game 5.

If 'ifs' and 'buts' were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas - Don Meredith

68 posted on 06/09/2018 8:25:27 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Mozzafiato
The Warriors might have another 1-2 years in them, but I see this as probaby their last hurrah unless they score another young star. They were likely toast against Houston until Chris Paul got injured.

You make a good point about age - in fact, Paul's hamstring injury probably isn't unrelated to the fact that he's 33. But where is the young talent in the West that can keep the W's out of the Finals for the next few years? James Harden is 28, about the same age as the Warriors stars, and Paul is going to demand a fortune to play with the Rockets at age 34. If the Rockets want to pursue a 34 year old LeBron James to form their own super team with Harden and Paul, they'll have to get rid of their own young talent like Clint Capela. Anthony Davis in NO is a rising young superstar but where is the talent around him? Karl Anthony Towns in Minnesota actually seems to be regressing.

I think the W's biggest challenges for the next three years will be the same challenges they had this year - health and lack of motivation. They were clearly bored during the regular season and even into the post-season - Steve Kerr obviously can't motivate them. And the injury bug bit them all season long, with Curry and Iguoadala missing big parts of the post-season.
69 posted on 06/09/2018 8:40:19 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: YogicCowboy

I’m going to stay with my assessment of the current Warrior team but certainly not the franchise. And I am in slight disagreement with your assessment of Russell and Chamberlain. But we are certainly in agreement on Shaq and (I’m assuming) Lebron.

Yes, Russell and Chamberlain we’re dominate players and great athletes but it was primarily their height that lead to that dominance. Take a few inches off either and you would have two better than average players.

And Shaq and Lebron, for example, just plow their way to the basket. That’s not the basketball I remember. The league could change with the simple expedient of calling more offensive fouls, what we used to call charging. But I don’t expect that soon. OTOH, it hard to not to concede that Lebron is one of the great physical specimens on earth. But watching him play basketball is just boring. He is a great athlete that should be playing football.

As to the dunk I have mixed emotions. I could live with or without it. But I love my three pointers particularly if the shot by Klay or Steph. What they and others have done is master a difficult skill. In sports it is skill (not height or muscle) that I admire most.

Bottom line: I prefer West and Goodrich to today’s muscle basketball. But I still love the sport and the Warriors are my team.


70 posted on 06/09/2018 10:19:26 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed. About time)
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To: vespa300

Many basketball and hockey players chew on their mouthguards between plays.

I don’t agree with Curry’s SJW tendencies, but he’s an open Christian and a solid family man. I live in the Bay Area and there hasn’t been a speck of trouble from the Curry house.


71 posted on 06/09/2018 4:00:59 PM PDT by bootless (Is life so dear or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it!)
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To: bootless

>>>I don’t agree with Curry’s SJW tendencies, but he’s an open Christian and a solid family man. I live in the Bay Area and there hasn’t been a speck of trouble from the Curry house.<<<

Thanks. That is refreshing to hear. Disappointed that as a Christian, he chooses to side with the thugs on Trump. Thanks.


72 posted on 06/09/2018 4:38:57 PM PDT by vespa300
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To: EdnaMode

You hate men because you look like a man. Fool....


73 posted on 06/09/2018 4:50:57 PM PDT by vespa300
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To: vespa300

Ooops. wrong thread. sorry.


74 posted on 06/09/2018 4:51:59 PM PDT by vespa300
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To: vespa300

You’re welcome. As I said, I don’t agree, but I believe he comes by his opinion honestly.

That said, the entire team is pretty straight-edge and hew to a team-oriented work ethic. The idea of LeBron joining the team is pretty much a nonstarter here - he’s too much all about him.


75 posted on 06/09/2018 5:17:52 PM PDT by bootless (Is life so dear or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it!)
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To: EdnaMode

Congratulations to the Back-to-Back NBA Champions Golden State Warriors!!!!

You are World champions.

As for LeBron, he may play somewhere else as a free agent. Maybe the Lakers may take him.


76 posted on 06/09/2018 6:23:26 PM PDT by GuavaCheesePuff (I want to thank the Good Lord for making me a Yankee-Old Yankee Stadium (1923-2008))
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To: super7man

Life is just a game if you want to look at it that way.


77 posted on 06/09/2018 9:36:40 PM PDT by Az Joe (Gloria in excelsis Deo)
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To: Mozzafiato

Dirk Nowitzki of the Mavericks: b. 1978, NBA Champ in 2011 at age 32. ....Still playing.


78 posted on 06/09/2018 10:53:29 PM PDT by octex
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To: Midnitethecat

Reed played with tremendous heart. I think Earl Monroe, with Clyde Frasier, was more important than Bradley.


79 posted on 06/09/2018 11:53:38 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: InterceptPoint

I think your comment about height would apply more to other centers of that era than Russell or, especially, Chamberlain. Both those men were track stars in college. In contrast, although very skilled and smart, Jabbar and Thurmond had less agility.

They did not count blocks back then. If they had, I suspect Chamberlain and Russell would still own most of the records. I have seen no one since then who comes close to their ability, except possibly Olajuwon. (Walton had so few healthy seasons, I hesitate to include him.)

Wilt once demonstrated his dexterity and coordination by leaping straight up and plucking a nickel from the top edge of the backboard.

Speaking of Thurmond - the defensive center most respected by Russell, Chamberlain, and Jabbar - he once said candidly in an interview that he could not have guarded Shaq because in his own era the defender was entitled to his space on the floor, while in Shaq’s era he was not.

I agree entirely about West and Goodrich; ironically, I have read journalists write of them that today they would just be good players, not great. I disagree, especially about West (or, to switch teams, about Robertson). They were (as one writer put it) “guard guards”: not ones, not twos, just guards who did it all, and traded off each night who would score or shoot. West’s jump shot was smooth, quick, and textbook - from anywhere.

Humans are not machines. The great players adapt and improve. Add today’s sophisticated footwear, arthroscopic surgery, training facilities, video replays, offensive sets, quicker travel, and many of the greats of the past would be great today. The champions find a way.

Rick Barry (my personal favorite, as I grew up watching him play) played 12 of his 14 seasons with no cartilage in his left (jumping) knee. Think about that: He played 12 seasons, 10 of them as an All-Star, with no cartilage. How might he have benefited from modern surgery?


80 posted on 06/10/2018 12:20:41 AM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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