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"Outrage" fueling a new culture of persecution for political beliefs [vanity]
self | 06/30/2018 | self

Posted on 06/30/2018 12:38:59 PM PDT by logi_cal869

After a long, contentious courtship and the prior 8 years of defending then-President Obama at all costs, it seems that the media has declared war upon the current administration and, by extension, the American public, by promoting one false narrative after another. First it was Russian collusion, then it was Russian election manipulation. Now it's Republican/Right-wing conspiracy to prosecute violence against journalists. An objective person can discern both irony and hypocrisy from recent events.

Let's forget for a moment the recent week's developments: There are so many examples of left wingers calling for violence against those with opposing political views that you'd have to be the dumbest person on the planet to be so unaware. That, or intentionally-ignorant...an order of magnitude worse than the prior.

To be clear, I'm referring to those on the left accusing President Trump and others of having incited violence against journalists, in particular against those who worked at the Capital Gazette. Simply put, they blame the Annapolis shooting on Republicans and Trump. 2 examples: 1. CNN legal and national security analyst Asha Rangappa suggested that Trump’s “dangerous rhetoric” could have been a motivating factor. 2. A reporter for the Springfield Republican resigned after Tweeting (falsely) that the Annapolis gunman dropped a MAGA hat on the newsroom floor as he heinously killed his innocent victims. Instances of prior shootings have nearly always been used to promote gun control, but never have they been used - fraudulently - to impugn any one person who wasn't heading the NRA.

We first heard the cries of this trend after Charlottesville when those on the left decried 'white supremacists' as having no Constitutional rights. The left could not be more egregiously-wrong: The Constitution does not protect favored speech, it protects disagreeable speech. This includes the Black Panthers/Black Lives Matter and, much to the chagrin of the hypocrites on the left, White Supremacists as well. Rhetorical question: If any one racial minority today were in the majority, would White Supremacists be regarded as a vanguard for white minorities as the Black Panthers/BLM of today? It's question which would, ironically, make some heads explode from the internal conflict.

With the logic being used by those at CNN et al that the Right is promoting shootings against the media, they (the media) should have been screaming about Soviet interference in the '68 election defeat of Hubert Humphrey...a man then-President Johnson was SURE would defeat Nixon and who ran on a platform to end the Vietnam War.

Nixon also claimed to want to end the war, but what was secret until 5 years ago was well-known to the Soviets: Nixon had torpedoed the Paris Peace Talks to prolong the war and promote his own electoral chances. An honest person would call Nixon's act traitorous. It goes without saying that the Soviets wanted the US mired in Vietnam.

If this month was 1972 and the media was responding in-kind, the way they're handling the knee-jerk response to the Annapolis shooting at the Capitol Gazette newspaper, CNN et al would be screaming "RUSSIAN COLLUSION", except that nailing Nixon to the wall was exactly what they wanted and, ironically, had they made the accusation it would have been no more correct than it is today.

But it makes for great "outrage" headlines to manipulate the masses. Apparently back then they weren't paying off government leakers. Otherwise it wouldn't have taken 33 years for Nixon's TRUE crime to have been exposed...a crime against every American and, in particular, those who served and died in Vietnam after failure of the Paris Peace Talks in '68.

Here's the cruel irony: Had the media been as tenacious in '68 as it was in 72-73 during Watergate, the Vietnam War might have ended 5 years earlier and the violence that the media incited in that era - Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn et al - might have accomplished something tangible, as opposed to dead police officers then or the violence they hypocritically-incite today with no other purpose than to unseat ANOTHER President, in this case just because the President is male, white, was not their intended elector and they disagree with him & his supporters.

One more thing: Calling for violence against political opponents is analogous to yelling "FIRE" in a crowded theater, a favored leftist argument when saying "free speech" does not protect all speech.

Ohhhh, the hypocrisy.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: outrage; yetanothervanity
Rant over.
1 posted on 06/30/2018 12:38:59 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: logi_cal869

No one has ever explained at all how you could hack the polling machines to change an election outcome. Pretty funny since they are supposedly all professionals and whatnot.


2 posted on 06/30/2018 12:43:14 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: logi_cal869

No one has ever explained at all how you could hack the polling machines to change an election outcome. Pretty funny since they are supposedly all professionals and whatnot.


3 posted on 06/30/2018 1:00:52 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Morpheus2009

The ironic implication is that the “electors” of the Electoral College were swayed in their votes.

Logically, there is some merit to the liberal/progressive argument for eliminating the Electoral College: It’s a much,much smaller group of people to influence.

Considering the breadth of personal information possibly gleaned by the Awans on Democrats alone, he who has the dirt holds the power.

But the left - and by extension, the media - will never vet the Awan scandal for its dark reality or allegations thereof despite the fact that it underpins their argument.

Hypocrisy reigns.


4 posted on 06/30/2018 1:03:45 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: logi_cal869

Not will they ever explain any of their conspiracies about the election, because then you would admit that the vehicle of voter fraud is real or a possibility.


5 posted on 06/30/2018 1:06:48 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: logi_cal869
Personally I'm not opposed to violence against the snooze crap weasels!

After all the damage they have done, they deserve it.

6 posted on 06/30/2018 1:09:37 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing")
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To: rawcatslyentist

Your comment elaborates upon THE moral argument rooted in the underpinnings of the Constitution and the moral foundations of our Republic.

The hypocrisy is exposed every time the left - “left” being a metaphor for all things opposed to the Constitution, libs and progressives alike, left or otherwise - argues a position which undermines the Constitution, ironically giving merit to that which you righteously describe.


7 posted on 06/30/2018 1:28:34 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: logi_cal869

We are becoming more and more like Nazi Germany every day.


8 posted on 06/30/2018 1:44:15 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Don't pass up the opportunity to use the Second Amendment today! IT'S FREE!)
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To: logi_cal869

A Russian manipulated Hillery!’s erection?

No wonder she still can’t get over it.


9 posted on 06/30/2018 1:47:18 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Morpheus2009

“No one has ever explained at all how you could hack the polling machines to change an election outcome.”

Chicago has had it perfected for decades.


10 posted on 06/30/2018 2:17:26 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: rawcatslyentist

“Personally I’m not opposed to violence against the snooze crap weasels!
After all the damage they have done, they deserve it. “

Y
No lie.


11 posted on 06/30/2018 2:18:53 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: logi_cal869

The Enlightenment is undermined by liberals tapping into raw human emotion directed at the target of the moment.

Logic and reason? That’s oppressive to cultures that are emotionally based, less intelligent and/or less educated.

Civility and civil debate? That privileges people in power and sets unrealistic standards for minorities liberals are bigoted for supposing their incapable of such behavior standards.

Instead, they revert to the perpetually angry mob.

You’re oppressed, we’re here to make it fair, do what we say and we’ll make it right.

Everyone else, pay us our due and we won’t send the mob after you.

People who are upset that they can’t get ahead in life, because your attitude undermines success, you get scapegoats you can rip apart with official permission and an excuse for not doing better. Just vote for us ...


12 posted on 06/30/2018 2:59:12 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Morpheus2009

Democrats are in favor of voter fraud. The fact that Trump one DESPITE it is amazing.

Study supports Trump: 5.7 million noncitizens may have cast illegal votes
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/19/noncitizen-illegal-vote-number-higher-than-estimat/

Some 3.5 million more people are registered to vote in the U.S. than are alive among America’s adult citizens.
Source: Ghost Voters
https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/08/election-fraud-registered-voters-outnumber-eligible-voters-462-counties/


13 posted on 06/30/2018 3:01:31 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: logi_cal869

“...Nixon also claimed to want to end the war, but what was secret until 5 years ago was well-known to the Soviets: Nixon had torpedoed the Paris Peace Talks to prolong the war and promote his own electoral chances. An honest person would call Nixon’s act traitorous. It goes without saying that the Soviets wanted the US mired in Vietnam....”
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Sorry, Nixon did NOT torpedo those talks. Well before the November 1968 election the Paris Peace Talks were doomed. Neither the North Vietnamese nor the South Vietnamese were serious about ending the war at that time.


14 posted on 06/30/2018 3:30:47 PM PDT by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY)
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To: House Atreides

https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/03/newly-released-secret-tapes-reveal-lbj-knew-never-spoke-out-about-nixons-treason/317305/

The parallels to 2016 are stunning. The tangible thing missing is a war. If you view the whole Russia-fabrication thing as an analogue, it’s almost deja vu, NSA & all (at least from my perspective), save for some “Trump tapes” (the latter of which stoked the headlines for a number of weeks).


15 posted on 06/30/2018 4:51:22 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: logi_cal869

You seriously need to do more research on this. Go beyond the propaganda of the New York Times and The Atlantic. Feel free to continue believing the stuff you’re fed by the propaganda media if that’s what you want. My mission in life is not to lead you from the darkness; that’s your responsibility.


16 posted on 06/30/2018 5:08:20 PM PDT by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY)
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To: House Atreides

Alrighty then. First off, I do not view Nixon through rose-colored glasses: Had he wanted to end the Vietnam War, President Nixon would only have needed to restart the bombing upon his swearing in.

He did not. Blood is on his hands, IMHO. The tapes of Chennault paint a disturbing picture about a period in ‘68 which mirrors 2016 in a number of disturbing ways, including the “October Surprise” of halting the bombing in an obvious attempt to help Humphrey.

I care little to debate this, but suffice to state that my view remains unchanged: If Nixon had done nothing before the election, he would only have been guilty of losing. All the conjecture viewing the ‘68 peace talks as fruitless have as much basis as the WaPo’s coverage of the war at the time. Again, IMHO.

Despite other analyses - including this RCP source - Nixon worked to torpedo the talks. Without regard to “fruitless” even Johnson was enraged at the contacts. Thus, at the time all parties believed it to be an effort at manipulation. 20/20 hindsight is a pendulum which swings both ways; I concede that my opinion is, in part, based also upon 20/20 hindsight.

.02

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/08/09/dont_blame_nixon_for_scuttled_peace_overture_127667.html


17 posted on 06/30/2018 5:49:26 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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