[farming pharmer]

As long as there is overwhelming debt, beer and football on TV, there isn't going to be another civil war.

People can't even feed themselves these days. You going to feed an army on raiding 7-11s while their family goes bankrupt and starves to death?

[Turbo Pig]

As long as there is overwhelming debt, beer and football on TV, there isn't going to be another civil war.

I agree. True change (in either direction) won't come until Soccer Mom's and NASCAR Dads are looking into the faces of their starving children; trying to figure out how to feed them.