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To: Cboldt
Those who follow Q will tend to be motivated to vote. Do you want more of them, or fewer? Perhaps Q is as much partner as competitor.

Good points. Yes, more Q would be better, as I expect they would all vote accordingly.

But how do you reach new people?

Will you garner more people posting on 8chan, or engaging in tried-and-true grassroots GOTV?

I can discuss issues with people face-to-face by knocking on doors, for example.

Or, I could just tell them to Google 8chan. But, to do that, I'd still have to get my ass off from in front of the computer and go door-to-door anyway.

How many centrists, uncommitted, undecided, or leaning-one-way-or-the-other voters randomly Google "Q," "QAnon," "8chan", or the like each day?

Q is hardly a new phenomenon at this point. Yet, nobody in my world, outside this community, would have the vaguest notion what Q is if I mentioned it in conversation.

928 posted on 08/16/2018 1:35:37 AM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: kevao

Posting from tablet, so pardon formatting, etc.

My only point was to not view Q necessarily as a competitor. I’m not advocating pointing to or focusing on or initiating Q discussion as a means to GOTV.


930 posted on 08/16/2018 1:55:29 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: kevao; bagster; ransomnote; JockoManning

“Yet, nobody in my world, outside this community, would have the vaguest notion what Q is if I mentioned it in conversation.”

Well, perhaps you should inform them.

Give them this:

The First (Only?) well known media producer article that has come out telling the “Q” side of the story.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/08/ascending-legacy-media-spotlight-propels-qanon-movement/

Then give them a sample of the MSM side of the Q story:

I’ll help. Here is a representative sample of the other side... Compare and contrast. What does that one story do, that none of the others do?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2018/08/03/this-is-the-moment-how-a-wave-of-media-coverage-gave-qanon-conspiracy-theorists-their-best-week-ever/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/08/03/theres-a-virus-in-trumpland/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/08/03/qanon-meet-a-real-life-believer-in-the-online-pro-trump-conspiracy-theory-thats-bursting-into-view/

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/01/us/politics/what-is-qanon.html

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/08/01/qanon-trump-florida-rally-what-q-signs-mean/878642002/

https://heavy.com/news/2018/08/sarah-sanders-qanon-question-answer-video/

https://www.axios.com/donald-trump-rally-qanon-conspiracy-theory-the-storm-85446651-6de5-4a6a-8943-2d14680c4702.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/08/01/we-are-q-a-deranged-conspiracy-cult-leaps-from-the-internet-to-the-crowd-at-trumps-maga-tour/?utm_term=.e2fa376890db

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/30/qanon-4chan-rightwing-conspiracy-theory-explained-trump

https://www.fastcompany.com/90212200/qanon-the-alternate-reality-that-was-front-and-center-at-trumps-rally

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/as-the-bizarre-qanon-group-emerges-trump-rallies-go-from-nasty-to-dangerous/2018/08/01/063ed6f8-9585-11e8-a679-b09212fb69c2_story.html?utm_term=.48a0d2b54d5f

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-qanon-705425/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6015627/Fans-bizarre-QAnon-cult-droves-Trump-rally-signs-t-shirts.html

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-tampa-rally-qanon-conspiracy-goes-mainstream-68037c87f50b/

https://www.newsweek.com/what-qanon-conspiracy-theorists-showed-support-trump-tampa-rally-1051708

https://splinternews.com/trumps-tampa-rally-was-full-of-insane-conspiracy-theori-1828015269

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/399801-trump-rally-attendee-holds-up-sign-linked-to-infamous-conspiracy

Which story comes closer to fair and balanced?

Which one contains the most information about the actual subject?

It’s all the MSM, coordinated, telling the same story, without telling the story.

Only one article so far tries to do that. It only tells the story as it can be told by looking at the basic facts.

That, so far, is the only other side of the story at that media level.

The only one with some actual looks at it as the phenomenon it is.

What I’m trying to show is not obvious without reading both sides. One uniformly trying to paint an awful picture, without supporting facts.

Q is just targeted questions. More and more people nationwide, and actually, world wide, have tried to answer those questions and share what they find.

The research community this happens in is pretty rough on claims made by researchers that are not backed up with good research.

If you had not read that one article, what would you know?

What would you not know?

Why would that be the case?

Whatever lies Q may be telling, he does it with questions, that lead to information and connections and time lines and then lots of thus informed speculation by smart, engaged, researcher type Trump supporters, who are not telling anyone what to think, but instead offering up their research, no strings attached. They don’t even get fame for it, since they all post anonymously.

The epicenter of 10s of thousands of serious folks looking for the real answers... and actually finding real answers.

Most Trust that Q is a force for truth, but trust President Trump first.

All this is going on in the center of an online assault by a variety of evil, throwing all kinds of gore and misdirection and... well, one can see the good versus evil, battle live there.

And, consider that if Q really is a US Military operation, would it be a useful platform to dis and mis-inform the bad guys?

As well as get a ton of interested patriots ready for what will happen if Trump is actually serious about taking down the swamp?

Or do you think the President would just ignore it and let it fester and all those most faithful Trump followers in it twist in the wind rather than let them down gently?

The MSM ridicules Q people just fine... when all they ask or offer is an honest look at what they have found.

Think we are a threat?

Think we are not?

Informed patriots are dangerous to who?

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/08/trump_haters_meet_the_sorcerers_apprentice.html

The Greatest Threat to the Global Evil Cabal, that want us Fighting and Divided in Every Possible Way...

The Greatest Threat to the Money Masters, to the Deep State and to our Government institutions and Private Institutions and Particularly the Main Stream Media which have been Weaponized against the People of OUR Nations and the People of OUR World...

Is a United Fellowship of Well and Truly Informed Patriots.

Locally. Nationally. Globally.

In your world, if they were only getting their Q info from the MSM, they might not have any idea what it really was.

You could tell them.

Then send them to https://qmap.pub to start their own research.

It worked for my family.


932 posted on 08/16/2018 2:11:11 AM PDT by EasySt (Truth will Prevail)
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To: kevao

Let me point out this - not everyone is a good candidate for going out and knocking on doors. I know that I’m not. But I like to be in the know, and I I’ll point things out in my conversations among friends and acquaintances from time to time.

And I don’t even have to mention Q - a lot of the things we see in the Q discussions here and elsewhere are mainstream subjects. Voicing and describing things in a way that shows the mainstream media to be wrong can help serve to get others to think for themselves. That alone at least opens them up to listening to someone when they do knock on the door to talk politics.

A lot of what we discover here is not something that can easily be presented to others in just a short conversation anyway.


934 posted on 08/16/2018 2:27:27 AM PDT by meyer (WWG1WGA, MAGA!)
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