Posted on 11/07/2018 1:13:14 PM PST by MrChips
I agree that the majority of felons are apolitical.
I also agree with the premise that once you do your time, you should have your abilty to vote and bear arms restored (perhaps with the exception of certain political crimes or violent crimes).
Convicts are their own worst enemies, usually.
Same strategy as unlimited immigration, pad the voter roes with democrats.
Start with comparing New Yawk voter rolls. I am sure they will find plenty.
What a bizzare and rambling post. Who said that I was writing off Florida? The point of what I wrote was two-fold.
First, the original premise was that it was IMPOSSIBLE to win a Presidential election without Florida. That’s demonstrably false. 2016 is a perfect example.
Second, 19 other States have the exact same law that Florida has just enacted, including numerous swing States and Red States.
Guess what, they are still swing States and Red States in spite of said law.
I don’t particularly agree with the Amendment, but I’m sick and tired of prognosticators telling me that the sky is falling and automatically allocating votes based on this, when they don’t have any actual evidence that said prognostication is accurate.
Florida isn’t as purple as you might think. Yesterday was the perfect storm for Democrats, and if Florida was a true swing/purple State, Gullium and Nelson should have won.
They didn’t. Florida is trending right, not left.
As we learned in the case of the fake pipe bomb guy with the MAGA van, felons do vote in Florida, and for both parties.
There is no mechanism in place to prevent a felon from registering to vote, actually voting, and then having their vote counted. Did you have to submit to a police background check to vote? I didn't.
The threat of prosecution (which rarely happens) has been the only deterrent standing in the way of felons voting in Florida, or anywhere else.
A lot of people like to be CONCERNED.
The only FL rep that lost was Salazar who ran as a Never Trumper .
The Supervisors of Elections in each county are supposed to monitor their voter rolls to prevent and or remove any felons that are found.
Some are better at it than others.
But even with this new law, a judge has to okay the registration.
Now, how many ex-convicts do you think will actually go thru that process, especially if it has court costs and lawyer cost involved?..................
Why would felons even bother to vote? Do you think they were model citizens before they murdered, stole, raped and pillaged? I doubt it. Get a grip.
In the fwiw dept, the First lady and I voted no.
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Maybe that travesty could be countered by not allowing NY snowbirds to vote there after voting in NY, etc.
Do you credit this legislation, and yesterday’s close races, to the influx of Puerto Ricans, along with the usual influx of NY liberals?
Just curious what has even allowed this legislation to be passed. TIA.
Hi.
Could be.
Other problems were the redistricting order by the FL Supremes.
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You provided no evidence for your absurd claim, other than your pathetic and CONCERNED opinion.
Do you know what a “trend” is in politics? Florida has trended right since 2012 in Statewide elections.
That’s a demonstrable fact. It trended 0.30% more GOP in 2016 from 2012.
We don’t have a final count yet, compared to the national average vote, Florida trended further to the right than Texas.
You clearly don’t know what you are talking about, and you can’t provide any facts to support your “CONCERN.”
clearly you are unconcerned about the future of florida, or just oblivious. I bet on the latter.
Again, I provided facts and data. You are just “CONCERNED.”
....just like arizona and texas, florida is being flooded with leftists. it’s a shame you can’t see that.
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Well, I certainly see it.
I live in TX and am witnessing it, first hand.
Prayers up for AZ, TX and FL.
We need an immediate intervention.
I am in Florida, a Conservative, and I voted in favor of the amendment. I believe that once a person has served their sentence or (in the case of a murder conviction or felony sexual assault) has their civil rights restored they should have the same franchise rights as other citizens.
I don’t think using the argument (which may not be true) that they are likely to vote for Democrats is a valid reason to take away their franchise rights forever.
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