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My Big Fear: Felons Turn Florida Blue Forever
vanity | 11-7-2018 | MrChips

Posted on 11/07/2018 1:13:14 PM PST by MrChips

As most of you know, Florida yesterday passed a State Constitutional Amendment that will allow up to 1.5 million felons to vote. Only murderers and sex offenders are excluded. And there is indeed a lot of variation in the severity of the crime. Some felons are hardened criminals, while others are just guilty of possessing a little cannabis. Still, as most of you also know, Republicans cannot (?) win the White House without Florida. Am I exaggerating to fear that we will never win a presidential election again?

Now, after doing a little research this morning, I learned that many states now allow felons to vote, although often on more restrictive terms than in Florida’s sweepingly inclusive Amendment. I also learned that not all felons necessarily vote Democrat. Nevertheless, some 7 out of 10 do vote Democrat, at least nationally.

And so, if just half (750,000) of Florida’s newly re-enfranchised felons vote, then 70% of those (525,000) might vote Democrat. Nevertheless, it breaks partially along racial lines, and Florida has a higher percentage of non-Blacks, with White felons tending to vote Republican, and Florida’s White and Hispanic felons combined are about 57% (427,500) of the total, with Blacks at 43%, (322,500). It is also true that close to 14% of Blacks voted Republican yesterday, remarkably so against a black candidate (Gillum), and that would lower the Democrat felon vote by approximately 45,000. But, let’s also assume that at least 50,000 Whites and Hispanics also could vote Democrat. That raises the bar.

So, on crunching numbers, one finds that if half of the felons vote, some 325,000 would likely go to the Democrat. Which means just as many would vote the other way. That is a best case scenario. Obviously, I am trying to reassure myself that this Amendment is not the end of the world. Still, even if my numbers are way off, it still seems true that the Democrat felon vote might well be no more than 100,000 votes greater than the Republican felon vote when all is said and done. Your thoughts? Are my numbers too optimistic?

Can we overcome 100,000? Both governor and senate races in Florida, yesterday, saw very narrow victories by Desantis and Scott. But, considering the fact that Desantis was a poor campaigner and Scott had to overcome a Florida legend for whom every elderly person in the state had voted several times, the narrowness of their victories is not surprising. And so, yes, we can overcome 100,000 . . . I hope and pray.


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1 posted on 11/07/2018 1:13:14 PM PST by MrChips
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To: MrChips

the bonfire of the semi-hysterical vanities continues.


2 posted on 11/07/2018 1:14:42 PM PST by JohnBrowdie
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To: MrChips
White felons tending to vote Republican,

How would anybody know? They aren't supposed to vote at all!.......................

3 posted on 11/07/2018 1:15:24 PM PST by Red Badger (FNo-platform us all you want. Ban us all you want. Smear us all you want. You canÂ’t stop an idea...)
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To: MrChips

Yep. This is one stupid state. The California of the east coast...


4 posted on 11/07/2018 1:16:12 PM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: MrChips

I basically agree with, once you have done your time you should start fresh. In this case after watching some of the ads supporting the amendment, I voted against it.

Probably will not make all that much difference but I am not sure of that.


5 posted on 11/07/2018 1:16:35 PM PST by yarddog
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To: JohnBrowdie

Live in Fl do ya?


6 posted on 11/07/2018 1:16:36 PM PST by Bell Bouy II
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To: JohnBrowdie

Oh, c’mon! It’s a serious question! :-)


7 posted on 11/07/2018 1:17:54 PM PST by MrChips ("To wisdom belongs the apprehension of eternal things." - St. Augustine)
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To: MrChips
Recidivism is your friend. Gangland shootings too. And narcotics overdoses. Alcoholism, tried and true. It's all good!
 
8 posted on 11/07/2018 1:18:02 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (Nuke the Caravan!)
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To: Red Badger

I just looked up some studies that had been done in the wake of the Bush/Gore fiasco. One said it would have changed the outcome, and the other said it would not have.


9 posted on 11/07/2018 1:19:11 PM PST by MrChips ("To wisdom belongs the apprehension of eternal things." - St. Augustine)
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Served their time?
Kept of trouble?
If they are citizens, they vote.
They paid their price.

Now if you want harsher penalties, that is a different conversation.


10 posted on 11/07/2018 1:19:26 PM PST by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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Florida can counter-act this. It's very simple but nobody listens to me.

1. Compare voters to other state rolls to find and convict double voters. --->Publicize convictions of double voters.<---

2. Aggressively pursue illegal alien voting.

3. Check all voting machines for accuracy and/or tampering.

That's for the government to do. Then Republicans need to start a voter registration drive now and keep it going.

Felons counter-acted.
11 posted on 11/07/2018 1:19:32 PM PST by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: MrChips

I’ve worked in prison providing direct services to inmates. My experience is that black inmates did not talk about politics. Some white inmates would talk and usually were conservative.


12 posted on 11/07/2018 1:19:49 PM PST by Karoo
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To: Bell Bouy II

I do part-time.


13 posted on 11/07/2018 1:19:51 PM PST by MrChips ("To wisdom belongs the apprehension of eternal things." - St. Augustine)
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To: MrChips

Most of these felons are hardly likely to ever vote.


14 posted on 11/07/2018 1:20:15 PM PST by corkoman
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Things have a way of backfiring on the Democrats. Remember they run the prison systems too


15 posted on 11/07/2018 1:20:54 PM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Karoo

Interesting. As I mentioned somewhere above, studies have been done on this.


16 posted on 11/07/2018 1:21:25 PM PST by MrChips ("To wisdom belongs the apprehension of eternal things." - St. Augustine)
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To: JohnBrowdie

I love vanities. Keep ‘em coming!


17 posted on 11/07/2018 1:21:46 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: corkoman

Why?


18 posted on 11/07/2018 1:21:52 PM PST by MrChips ("To wisdom belongs the apprehension of eternal things." - St. Augustine)
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To: Karoo

Anyone think a white survivor of prison would vote for a Democrat?


19 posted on 11/07/2018 1:22:57 PM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: central_va

no surprise. some of the most hysterical logs on the bonfire are yours.


20 posted on 11/07/2018 1:23:53 PM PST by JohnBrowdie
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