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To: little jeremiah
I agree that there is a legitimate measure of governmental secrecy about a limited number of things for a limited time.

However that principle has been operationally blown to bits for decades.

I'd like to try erring on the other side for a hundred years or so and see how that goes.

848 posted on 12/08/2018 8:18:35 PM PST by JockoManning (http://www.zazzle.com/brain_truth for hats T's e.g. STAY CALM & DO THE NEXT LOVING THING)
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To: JockoManning

Secrecy is an inherent part of protecting a country from adversaries.

Sun Tzu Art of War stuff.

No government is just as bad as bad government. No government or weak gov winds up with invasion, robber barons, etc.


854 posted on 12/08/2018 8:40:49 PM PST by little jeremiah (When we do not punish evildoers we are ripping the foundations of justice from future generations)
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To: JockoManning

“I’d like to try erring on the other side for a hundred years or so and see how that goes.”

I see your point, but that kind of idealism leads to thinking like the ones we oppose. We can eschew racism but that doesn’t mean racism won’t be practiced against us. We can eschew violence and war but that CERTAINLY does not mean violence and war won’t be practiced against us. And we can say we’re giving up spying but how can we do that when others will always be spying on us?

What *I* would like to see is some of those secret societies like Skull & Bones investigated with a proctoscope. I want to know why all the presidents come from Yale and Harvard. Collusion, legacy appointments, pay to play, scratch my back, unionism, clout, pull, who you’re knowin’ and who you’re blowin’. That’s the stuff I want routed out.


928 posted on 12/09/2018 8:42:05 AM PST by ichabod1 (He's a vindictive SOB but he's *our* vindictive SOB.)
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