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To: dayglored

Why does the “week” affect GPS location?


11 posted on 02/14/2019 10:48:04 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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It’s like saying my garage, depending on the day, is either on the west of my home, separated only by a wall, or 10,000 miles south of my home, due to this rollover error.

No, it’s still one wall west of my home.


13 posted on 02/14/2019 10:51:18 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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Why does the “week” affect GPS location?

GPS devices determine their location by calculating the distance from multiple GPS satellites based on the time of arrival of timestamped messages. So, if you were really far away from one or more of the satellites relative to the others, then in theory their timestamped packets could arrive with a time difference more than a few seconds.

Of course that can't actually happen in normal circumstances since the entire set of GPS satellites is close together in earth orbit.

But it is possible that some extraterrestrials with a super sensitive GPS receiver that have a black hole between us and them could see radically different apparent path lengths to their receiver. No doubt they would figure out the discrepancy and not get lost on the way to Galactiburger in their hovercars.

20 posted on 02/14/2019 11:15:04 AM PST by freeandfreezing
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It's been 30 years since my college job where I worked on the first generation of these things but this is what I remember. The GPS signal emitted by the satellites is actually two different types of signals. The "CA" code which is what we use in everyday GPS technology. Originally this was meant as only a guide for the receiver so it could pick up and interpret the "P" code which was military/government only. The "CA" code was designed to only be accurate for civilian use down to about 100 meters. Later some mathematicians and other bright people figured out how to use it to get down to a few feet. Pres Clinton, in one of the few things he did right signed a document allowing the "CA" code to be non degraded thus all civilians could have fairly accurate GPS positioning to within a few feet.

The military "P" code is accurate to within fractions of a millimeter. It however is encoded. The encoding algorithm works on a week by week basis. There were 37 different algorithms created thus you could have 37 different weeks. This allowed for a full constellation of 24 satellites and a handful of ground stations.

Now you may ask why does this affect the non military "CA" code receivers. It has to do with time keeping in the ephemeris file. Each satellite sends out an ephemeris block of data. The ephemeris data block details how the satellites orbit varies from the ideal orbit it should be in. All satellites are affected by things like Solar wind and cosmic radiation. Thus they are not exactly where the should be. The week is broadcast along with other data in the ephemeris file and your receiver gets that information and uses it to calculate time as well as position. Hope this helps.

25 posted on 02/14/2019 11:20:31 AM PST by Fellow Traveler
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> Why does the “week” affect GPS location?

I'm not exactly sure how the GPS specs require that the time be stored, but apparently the week is part of that data structure.

29 posted on 02/14/2019 11:54:12 AM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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37 posted on 02/14/2019 2:25:08 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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