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Official advice on low-fat diet and cholesterol is wrong, says health charity (UK, 2016)
The Guardian ^ | May 23, 2016 | The Guardian

Posted on 09/01/2019 6:10:50 AM PDT by BobL

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To: Mr Rogers
Sell that to someone who hasn’t been on a lot of diets in his life. I have. And your advice SUCKS.

Maybe it's your diet that sucks. You cannot burn more energy than you consume and gain weight. You may not like the laws of thermodynamics, but that won't change them. You can blame weight gain on hormones, enzymes, insulin, a fat gene or sunspots, but that won't change the fact that you can't get something from nothing.

201 posted on 09/01/2019 9:00:08 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase

How much do you get paid by either big carb or big pharma?

The people in concentration camps prove my point not yours. But, it is a predictable strawman used by those without any depth to their knowledge.


202 posted on 09/01/2019 11:05:25 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: metmom

Lol!

That’s the best rule of thumb, yes!

:)


203 posted on 09/01/2019 11:16:22 PM PDT by Califreak (If Obama had been treated like Trump the US would have been burnt down before Inauguration Day)
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To: Mase

You crack me up since you skipped over the relationship of insulin to carbs and why releasing insulin to process excess carbs results in insulin resistance.


204 posted on 09/01/2019 11:17:39 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: Mase; BobL

“Maybe it’s your diet that sucks.”

Maybe it is your understanding of biology that sucks. If what you say is true, no one could eat a lot and not gain weight (like some of my friends). And no one would be able to gain weight just inhaling while walking past a bakery (me). There would be no such thing as metabolic rates, which we can measure and see how they respond to diets. People getting insulin injections wouldn’t tend to gain weight unless they also started eating more.

Frankly, your constant appeal to the laws of thermodynamics reveal your ignorance of biology. I’m sorry but you look really stupid trying to apply rules of thermodynamics that you don’t understand to human metabolism - which you also do not understand or even observe.

It is true that starvation will eventually cause weight loss and death. It is also true that someone removed from a concentration camp often gains weight back. ANYONE can lose weight on almost ANY diet if it is severe enough. Big whoop!

The challenge is finding a LIFESTYLE of eating that allows an individual to lose weight and keep it off. And it is undoubtedly true that MANY find a lower-carb, higher fat approach works well. Many of us find intermittent fasting works very well.

Then there are people like you who blather on about thermodynamics and weight loss, showing no understanding of either. You are embarrassing yourself in public.

But...if you LIKE being stupid in public, have at it.


205 posted on 09/02/2019 7:29:21 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: BobL
Please add me to your Low Carb ping list.

Thanks.

206 posted on 09/02/2019 8:30:04 AM PDT by foxfield (When the going gets tough, the tough get going!)
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To: foxfield

You’re on! Number 34.


207 posted on 09/02/2019 8:32:35 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: ican'tbelieveit; Mr Rogers

It’s funny. This little debate here reminds me of when my doctor tried to put me on Statins. From everything that I’ve seen, Statins are an incredible wonder drug. Virtually everyone who has used them, me included, has had side effects, of varying degrees. Yet somehow, the medical profession swears up and down that there no side effects (to speak of), and therefore everyone is faking it or lying about it). Incredible - I’ve never heard of any other class of drugs pull that off!

Anyway, the clown wanted to debate me! I knew enough that there was no way he was going to listen to a damn thing that I said, so I told him to simply get lost. People in any profession tend to build up an arrogance and resist (for various reasons), to the end, others telling them they might be wrong. It’s just a fact of life! But, eventually, the truth gets out, since ‘the resistance’ will run out of debating points.


208 posted on 09/02/2019 10:10:43 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: BobL

Good thread, Bob. Please put me on your list.


209 posted on 09/02/2019 1:09:53 PM PDT by moonhawk (Excuse me...Did you just presume the gender of the Earth Deity?)
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To: BobL
I'm starting to tell them I'm allergic to statins.😈
210 posted on 09/02/2019 1:12:35 PM PDT by Califreak (If Obama had been treated like Trump the US would have been burnt down before Inauguration Day)
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To: moonhawk

You’re on it. Welcome!


211 posted on 09/02/2019 1:18:43 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: Califreak

I like that idea...but hell, they’ll come up with something else to ‘try out’.


212 posted on 09/02/2019 1:19:18 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: metmom
If it’s processed beyond basic freezing or canning, don’t eat it.

Every couple of months I have a hot dog as an indulgence.

The closer to whole a food is the better it is for you.

213 posted on 09/02/2019 1:26:01 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Human beings don't behave rationally. We rationalize our behavior.)
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To: Califreak

https://cholesterolcode.com/


214 posted on 09/02/2019 1:28:09 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Some friends and I were discussing diet and eating well, and someone said that it’s what you do most of the time that matters, not the occasional treat that you have.


215 posted on 09/02/2019 1:30:10 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: BobL

And when they push it on us we can remember this: “No.” is a complete sentence.


216 posted on 09/02/2019 1:49:01 PM PDT by Califreak (If Obama had been treated like Trump the US would have been burnt down before Inauguration Day)
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To: metmom
That is why I don't sweat party food. If it was weekly it would be something else but it is every two or three months.

I am not going to insult the cook by skipping their lovingly prepared dishes even if it is not what I usually eat.

If you are allergic that is different but some people make such a fuss over food. If you eat healthy 95% of the time you are ahead of the game. If you do something that gets you moving on a daily basis you are doing even better.

217 posted on 09/02/2019 1:51:04 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Human beings don't behave rationally. We rationalize our behavior.)
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To: Mr Rogers; BobL
BobL...thanks for starting the ping list. I look forward to many more discussions on the Keto/low carb "LIFESTYLE".

Mr Rogers...your comments WRT thermodynamics and biology are spot on. Thanks for taking the time to explain it.

IMHO, Keto/low carb is not just a diet. It truly is a LIFESTYLE (it should be combined with exercise).

218 posted on 09/03/2019 4:53:18 AM PDT by FtrPilot
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To: FtrPilot

Happy to have you - we’re now at 36 people!


219 posted on 09/03/2019 6:46:46 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: BobL

Add me to the list please.


220 posted on 09/04/2019 5:05:38 PM PDT by Starrling
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