First Hand Account: Coronavirus patient says disease 'not the scary thing that everyone thinks it is'

Fox News ^ | 02/29/2020 | Sam Dorman

[tatown]

It’s like these singles/doubles are popping up on cue...like the whole thing is being directed.

[DannyTN]

Eventually (couple of years) the death rate will drop because most of us will be survivors of it and we will have immunity.

But right now, it looks to me like the death rate is 2-6%, with a hospitalization rate of 15-20%. And that death rate is heavily influenced on whether your hospital is overwhelmed or not.

It’s should be obvious to anyone who has looked at the numbers that it’s a lot worse than the flu.

[justa-hairyape]

If I am speaking from a hospital bed any where, I assume I am a dead man lying. And that is without a deadly new virus lol.

[tatown]

You have literally no clue what the mortality rate is. You are using shit data and stating it as fact. Until/unless a wide serosurvey is conducted the number of cases is 100% unknown thus the mortality rate CANNOT BE CALCULATED.

[DannyTN]

Get me perfect numbers, I’ll be happy to revise my analysis.

[justa-hairyape]

They are directing the education of idiots. That is what is being directed. People are being brought up to speed in an orderly fashion. Our government did us a grave disservice and may not survive.

[gas_dr]

My above numbers are standard epidemiology numbers. They are far closer to the truth than what you have promulgated. What you are doing is dangerous, and presupposes an air of authority that appears to be entirely unearned. How many people do you have to have tell you that you are incorrect? While it is OK for you to choose your own ignorance, please do not spread it.

[DannyTN]

We got good stats on the Princess Cruise right?
705 confirmed cases. Anyone with symptoms tested. 6 deaths (0.85%), but only 10 recovered (1.4%), 689 still sick.

[null and void]

Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

If a quarantine saves just one child's life, it's worth it.

[gas_dr]

I treat hundreds of cases of ARDS a year as an intensivist. I appreciate your complete fearmongering, and suggest that the reality is no where close to what you are saying. But please also continue to spread fear and panic.

[dfwgator]

From what I understand, and what concerns me most is, does the virus cause long-term damage that is felt even when the symptoms are gone?

[null and void]

We read about a Freeper who decided to climb onto the back of a bear attacking his dog to slit the bear's throat a few years ago. He probably thought that wasn't too scary either after it was all over.

We could ask him...

[tatown]

No, the cruise ship was a statistically insignificant sample. If you don’t know what that is, you may want to crack a book or two before spewing the bullshit ‘statistics’ you are breathlessly trying to pass on as fact.

I’ll reiterate, a wide serosurvey much be completed before the mortality is known. It is possible/likely that the number of affected is 10x or 100x the official number of confirmed cases. This would make the advertised death rate an order or two of magnitude less.

[gas_dr]

And thus you have self described your error in statistical analysis. Using the Diamond princess as a total subset, mortality is 0.85%, significantly down from your 2% just a little upthread. This demonstrates the p Value of any statistical analysis. So as the N goes up, you approach a better analysis. Of course, using your logic the difference between 2% and 0.85% is a 60% in mortality. So I guess in just the few hours I have followed this threat the mortality of this disease is fallen 60% Woo-hoo!

Please let the professional health care physicians and epidemiologists disseminate the actual truth.

[gas_dr]

Forget it, you cannot educate the willfully ignorant, or perpetually self assured. As one of my medical school professors described a colleague of mine — often wrong, never in doubt...

[tatown]

I’ve been around here for a long time and I can honestly say that I’ve never seen so many supposed ‘reasonable’ people lose their minds. It’s as if they are hoping and praying for a worst case scenario and the facts be damned. It’s exactly like the climate change idiots! No reasoning as all.

Thanks for injecting some sanity into this discussion...there are some of us left that still appreciate science and intelligence.

[Starstruck]

The US number of 1.5% reflects a health care system that is not overwhelmed. If the system gets overwhelmed, rates will go up.

And how many people are like me and many I know? We get sick. We go to bed. We eat chicken noodle soup. We get better. We go back to our lives. Did we have Coronavirus? 64 may just be a false base.

[dfwgator]

We all know the Left would gladly see thousands die, if it means Trump loses the election. Never let a crisis go to waste.

[gas_dr]

And how many people are like me and many I know? We get sick. We go to bed. We eat chicken noodle soup. We get better. We go back to our lives. Did we have Coronavirus? 64 may just be a false base.

Probably tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands

[DoughtyOne]

These new nations represent around 25-33% of the total of all nations now reporting.

They’re little bergs of a nation too. Strange.

Azerbaijan
Belarus
Denmark
Estonia
Iceland
Lithuania
Mexico
Monaco
Netherlands
New Zealand
Nigeria
North Ireland
Qatar
San Martine