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‘It’s a game-changer:’ Army awards $20.4 million to Sig Sauer for new squad rifle
stripes.com ^ | April 20, 2022 | ROSE L. THAYER

Posted on 04/21/2022 9:15:16 AM PDT by PROCON

U.S. Army Reserve Soldier Sgt. Javion Siders, assigned to the 982nd Combat Camera Company (Airborne) conducts M4 Carbine marksmanship qualifications on Fort Jackson, S.C., April 9, 2022. The Army has awarded a 10-year, $20.4 million contract to Sig Sauer to replace the service’s M4 rifle with a new weapons system. (Spc. Eric Kestner/U.S. Army)

The Army has awarded a 10-year, $20.4 million contract to Sig Sauer to replace the service’s M4 rifle with a new weapons system that officials said reduces aiming errors and brings the Army a new caliber of ammunition for the first time in 65 years.

After a 27-month decision process, the Army chose Sig Sauer over two other competitors to manufacture and deliver two variations of the Next Generation Squad Weapon, the XM5 Rifle, set to replace the M4/M4A1 carbine, and the XM250 Automatic Rifle, replacing the M249 Squad Automatic Weapon.

“The capability increase that these weapons provide over the M4 and the M249 is what’s really exciting. It’s significant,” said Col. Scott Madore, project manager for soldier lethality at Program Executive Office Soldier, the Army office that delivers new capabilities to soldiers. He spoke Wednesday during a news conference to discuss the contract alongside other officers who worked on acquiring the new squad rifle.

Both weapons use a 6.8 common cartridge family of ammunition, deviating from the Army’s 5.56 ammunition that has been the standard for 65 years, said Brig. Gen. William Boruff, the executive officer of the joint program for armaments and ammunition. The new ammunition comes in multiple types of tactical and training rounds to increase accuracy and

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The new XM5 Rifle is pictured here. The Army has awarded a 10-year, $20.4 million contract to Sig Sauer to replace the service’s M4 rifle with a new weapons system. (U.S. Army)

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: banglist; m4; sigsauer; usarmy; xm5
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To: skeeter

“spend it or lose it”

Yep.

Working for the DoD atached to the navy for 30 years I heard a lot of stories from navy retirees I worked with about throwing gear over the side on the way back from deployment to justify future funding.....some of it brand new.

If they didn’t need the money they lost it permanently......real efficient right?

SMH


21 posted on 04/21/2022 9:28:45 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave)
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To: TheDandyMan

“SIG Sauer, Inc, is headquartered in New Hampshire.”

I was not aware of that. Learned something new, thank you


22 posted on 04/21/2022 9:30:17 AM PDT by This_Dude
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To: PROCON

Wonder if NATO is gonna adopt this caliber?
IMHO, it’s a stupid move, but everything about this admin is all about being “stupid” these days, especially when it comes to tax dollars and weaponry....
But, hey, there’s gotta be at least a gazillion 5.56/300BO cases out there....all for us, now.
But yeah....no American-centered manufacturers available? WTF? This sounds like a dark, smokey, backroom deal...they’re really good at that. /s


23 posted on 04/21/2022 9:32:01 AM PDT by lgjhn23 (Pray for America....)
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To: V_TWIN

It ain’t their money.


24 posted on 04/21/2022 9:32:37 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: V_TWIN

Ammo to be manufactured in Missouri. New factory.


25 posted on 04/21/2022 9:32:38 AM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: JoSixChip
They may not be based in the U.S., but in many ways, they could be considered a U.S. company:

Tom Taylor, SIG Sauer’s chief marketing officer and executive vice president of commercial sales, succinctly summed this up: “SIG Sauer is an American company, and our firearms are 100 percent manufactured in the USA. Beyond that, and an even lesser known fact, is that SIG Sauer ammunition is made in Arkansas, while SIG Electro-Optics are made in Oregon.”

And wasn't the Beretta M9 the standard issue military sidearm in the U.S. from the mid-80's up until a few years ago? So this isn't entirely unprecedented.

26 posted on 04/21/2022 9:35:21 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: DesertRhino

“...no nation on earth builds better firearms than the USA...”

But...but...they build those awful, evil “ghost guns” that no one can see, especially libs. Better to go with our euro “friends”. “Friends” that are under “control”. /s


27 posted on 04/21/2022 9:35:42 AM PDT by lgjhn23 (Pray for America....)
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To: CodeToad

Took 15 replies to note this. $20 million? Pfft... drop in the bucket. Where’s the rest of the story?


28 posted on 04/21/2022 9:36:42 AM PDT by Obadiah ("America is facing a winter of severe illness and death." Biden's own summary of his America.)
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To: PROCON

XM5,,
Cause Everyone else has an AR 15 !


29 posted on 04/21/2022 9:38:14 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (On the Other hand,,, Free Men Choose- - SLAVES OBEY)
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To: PROCON
Both weapons use a 6.8 common cartridge family of ammunition, deviating from the Army’s 5.56 ammunition that has been the standard for 65 years, said Brig. Gen. William Boruff, the executive officer of the joint program for armaments and ammunition.

The new cartridge is 6.8x51, which is derived from the Army's 7.62x51 NATO cartridge case.

Sig will market the cartridge on the civilian market as the .277 Sig Fury, and will eventually offer a semi-auto version of the rifle as the Sig MCX-Spear. And you can own one for the low, low price of only $7,999.00

30 posted on 04/21/2022 9:40:49 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: PROCON

Apparently they want to get away from direct impingement and go to a piston but don’t want to upgrade to 7.62 that’s already available.


31 posted on 04/21/2022 9:41:58 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: PROCON
...a new weapons system that officials said reduces aiming errors...

Wait, you mean I could just buy a different firearm and reduce my aiming errors? Hmm, I thought the usual fix for that was to use better sights, or get better training. ;-) What's the phrase? "It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools." or something like that.

I know, I've tried different firearms and better sights. I've concluded my firearms probably deserve a better marksman than I'll ever be. But hey, I maintain them well as a reward for putting up with my "modest" (ha, on a good day!) skills.

In all seriousness, this seems like a questionable call. Are the improvements in accuracy, effects, maintenance etc. really going to be any different than what could be realized by incremental improvements to existing systems? Are those improvements (via either path) significant in the big picture? Are they worth the "cost" of deviating from the standard, and the supply/logistics headaches that are sure to come? This smells like a solution looking for a problem to fix. As in "Hey, it does X and maybe Y somewhat better." so suddenly X and Y become all important as an excuse to justify something you really want for other reasons.

32 posted on 04/21/2022 9:43:08 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Vaccine mandates: they are not about health, they are about obedience.)
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To: Kevmo

I read.the change is about penetrating body armour. Evidently the 6.8 does a better job.


33 posted on 04/21/2022 9:44:28 AM PDT by Fai Mao
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To: Sequoyah101

I believe that it will be based on the M4/AR15 platform and shoot 6.8 SPC which will only require an upper and BCG change.


34 posted on 04/21/2022 9:50:28 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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To: lgjhn23

The purpose of the US going to 5.56 was to standardize NATO on a single rifle round.

The US taxpayer will probably foot the bill to re-equip all NATO forces with 6.8mm in the future.


35 posted on 04/21/2022 9:51:06 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (We are being played by forces most do not understand)
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To: skeeter

“None of the new efforts will reduce the rate of production on 5.56 or 7.62 rounds, he said. “


36 posted on 04/21/2022 9:51:38 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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To: JoSixChip

They will be built under license and Sig will get a small fee for each one. This is a common situation in the arms industry. The Beretta 9mms were built in Connecticut IIRC. The Army had to pay a fee to Mauser because the 1903 used the Mauser action way back in the early 1900s.


37 posted on 04/21/2022 9:52:03 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: PROCON

Somehow, a $20 MM ten-year contract seems like not much money over a lot of time, but I am no expert in these matters. I “do” know that the 6.8 is quite the potent caliber.


38 posted on 04/21/2022 9:53:22 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them)
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To: Erik Latranyi

20 million bucks isn’t nearly enough to replace all the 5.56s in use in the US Military. This will probably be used in dedicated units.


39 posted on 04/21/2022 9:53:26 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: PROCON
Sure, after I dumped a ton into 6.5 Creedmore.....

My neighbor (hunter) was right that the 6.8 was the more impressive round.

40 posted on 04/21/2022 9:54:50 AM PDT by G Larry (Anybody notice that Satan is hard at work?)
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