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To: popdonnelly

Lolz do you really believe this?


29 posted on 05/06/2023 6:28:42 PM PDT by Manuel OKelley
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To: Manuel OKelley; popdonnelly

Russia already lost this war in terms of what it set out to do

1. Prevent Ukraine joining NATO - not only has that spectacularly failed, but Finland joined NATO - doubling the length of the border

2. Make Ukraine a vassal state - that failed in March with the Russian loss at the battle of Hostomel and of Kyiv

Then the Muscowites had secondary plans:
2.1. Make Ukraine land-locked - that failed in June with the defeat at Mykolaiv

2.2. Take everything east of the Dnieper - that failed in September with the huge wins by Ukraine east of Kharkiv and was cemented with the Ukrainians liberating Kherson

Now Moscow is trying to grab parts of the 4 provinces - we still have to see how that plays out.

But Russia has lost, badly - the best it can hope for now is to keep Crimea and be a Chinese vassal


81 posted on 05/08/2023 4:28:58 AM PDT by Cronos
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