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Rep. Massie: Impeach anyone who uses the phrase "This is part of an ongoing investigation and we cannot comment"!
Twitter ^ | July 14 | Thomas Massie

Posted on 07/15/2023 2:50:08 AM PDT by RandFan

@RepThomasMassie

FBI director Wray makes a troubling admission: the FBI often mines and collects personal financial data like gun purchases from private banks without a warrant.

(Excerpt) Read more at twitter.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: chrischristie; christopherwray; chriswray; newjersey
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Funny comment he made in the video I thought...
1 posted on 07/15/2023 2:50:08 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

republicans are all words...no action. Why has biden not been impeached yet? We all know why. We simply have a uniparty.


2 posted on 07/15/2023 3:21:37 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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Tell that to McCarthy Massie.


3 posted on 07/15/2023 4:04:23 AM PDT by TakebackGOP
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To: RandFan

Impeach any one in Congress who says, “we’re going to do an investigation”.

Congressional “investigations” are where truth goes to die”. They are nothing but campaign sound bite opportunities - NOTHING, NADA, ZILCH ever happens.


4 posted on 07/15/2023 4:25:18 AM PDT by Baldwin77 (Be not deceived, God is not mocked)
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To: RandFan

Arrest the LIARS like Wray, Garland..... I AGREE!


5 posted on 07/15/2023 4:26:03 AM PDT by high info voter (Delivery )
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To: joma89

No where on the face of the earth is talk any cheaper than in DC !


6 posted on 07/15/2023 4:26:54 AM PDT by Baldwin77 (Be not deceived, God is not mocked)
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To: Baldwin77

“Impeach any one in Congress “

Pray tell, how is a Member of the House or Senate impeached?
Who brings the charges?
Who tries conducts the impeachment trial?
Inquiring minds want to know.


7 posted on 07/15/2023 4:39:00 AM PDT by Tupelo (A House Divided Against Itself Cannot Stand)
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To: joma89

If you impeach Biden you then have Harris.Something like frying pan and fire comes to mind...


8 posted on 07/15/2023 4:39:45 AM PDT by CenTex (November 6, 2012 & August 31, 2021... Days that will live in infamy!!! )
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To: joma89

That’s right and McCarthy is a wimp of the biggest proportions


9 posted on 07/15/2023 4:57:06 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: CenTex

Nope. Senate will never convict.

You’ll have an impeached president biden


10 posted on 07/15/2023 5:00:03 AM PDT by cableguymn
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To: RandFan

What I am not understanding is that if a head of a department can hide behind this ‘on-going investigation’ crap there is no real oversight by congress. And with all of the redactions that the FBI makes on documents submitted to congress one would think that the FBI is elected by the people and NOT congress? There should be NO secrets that the FBI should be allowed to withhold from congressional oversight, period! If the info is truly sensitive then a closed-door session is what is needed, but the congressional oversight should prevail!!!!


11 posted on 07/15/2023 5:05:20 AM PDT by eeriegeno (Checks and balances??? What checks and balances?)
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To: Baldwin77

It is not true that no comment could be made as to the progress of an investigation. They can and should clarify whether they are actively pursuing the investigation, or they have simply tabled it and no effective pursuit of fact is going on.

The declarant then has a choice. Get active and present results within a specified time span, or release the information already collected. Hoarding evidence is itself a problem, and may be subject to criminal prosecution.


12 posted on 07/15/2023 5:25:19 AM PDT by alloysteel (Take back the rainbow. Its use by LGBTQ is cultural misappropriation.)
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To: CenTex

Just two back-to-back impeachments. But neither one would be successful unless a supermajority in the Senate agrees to taking the step of removal from office.

Presidents and many other officials may continue to serve in office unless they may be enjoined to resign from the post.

First they got Spiro Agnew. THEN they went after Richard Nixon. And it was a contingent of Republican legislators that went to Nixon to “encourage” his resignation. I cannot imagine such a march down Pennsylvania Avenue by Democrat Socialist legislators,

There are virtually no Democrats any more. And certainly not in the White Hut.


13 posted on 07/15/2023 5:34:13 AM PDT by alloysteel (Take back the rainbow. Its use by LGBTQ is cultural misappropriation.)
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To: joma89
This is a repost from October 2022:

Want to reform the FBI? Here's What You Do on the First Day.

1. Remove FBI from their role as briefer and coordinator/facilitator of classified meetings and activities in the US Congress, and reassign this to federal officers attached to ONDI. - FBI has been using this role to monitor congressional activities and maintain awareness of all procedural and political actions occurring in the Congress, and has exploited its knowledge to develop countermeasures to any effort to reduce or degrade the FBI's power base. They maintain extensive insider relationships with members of congress and related staff who have been coopted into serving as informants and insiders outside of the oaths of office they hold. There are currently about 160 liaison agents from the FBI embedded in congressional activities. This is essentially an intelligence-gathering activity staged against our own government. Remove them immediatelyand bar them from all congressional operations and proceedings unless official presence is required.

2. Restrict FBINet resident applications and data to only those things which are classified in nature. FBI hides unclassified and administrative records and other date within its secret collateral network which otherwise would be subject to FOIA and administrative validation.

3. Eliminate the FBI classification guide and require them to use ODNI classification. - The FBI uses its own created classification guide to provide shielding from scrutiny of records and administrative processes at their discretion. Eliminate their guide.

4. Revoke FBI authority to assign administrative penalties for criminal violations of professional conduct, and transfer legal oversight to ODNI using referrals to DOJ, not DOJ oversight. One look at the quarterly OPR email on OPR actions would be enough to shutter the agency. The FISA and NSL abuses are rooted entirely of an in-house performance system which values results over methods, and encourages cutting corners on due process and constitutional rights.

5. Eliminate classification or restriction of public disclosure of the DIOG and create a legitimate departmental policy manual with binding statements using the words “must” and “shall”. - The FBI is an investigative agency, not a law enforcement agency. They routinely apply selective judgment and decision-making which ignores criminal conduct of suspects in favor of expedited resolution.They will disregard, suppress or destroy evidence which impacts their narrative or infringes on their political influence, seeking investigative outcomes to cases which are most favorable to them. Include clear statements about what agents MUST do and CANNOT do. Solicit an Attorney General's Opinion on the mission of FBI, binding it to very specific channels of activity and engagement, and de-conflict/clarify its alignment with DHS. Make all mission assignments pointed and articulate, and eliminate those mission statements which are nebulous and allow for latitude and discretion in judgment.

6. Establish procedural standards for how investigations are triggered and registered as “investigations”, and require disclosure of all details as allowable by law to the US Congress without obfuscation or obstruction. Remove all FBI administrative alignment with DOJ which manifests in form of FBI officials bringing DOJ attorneys with them to testify in front of congress, and using them to shield themselves from legal culpability.

7. Remove all classifications from information and data addressing basic administrative processes used to shield FBI from public disclosure. The claim that “sources and methods” will be compromised, or that they6 cannot comment on ongoing investigations without accoutabiliy for their conduct should not exempt them from being responsible for HOW they interact administratively internally or with DOJ. Make deliberate overclassification a federal felony.

8. Refuse to nominate or consider anyone put forth for FBI Director who is a former agent, US Attorney or Federal Prosecutor. The FBI Director role going forward should be a Federal Judge, and the Deputy Director should be the Inspector General, subject to independent oversight and review. Force the agency to be outside the circle of commiseration on prosecutions, plea deals, suspect negotiations, or turning suspects into informants to spare embarrassment for lapses in abiding by constitutional rights. Bar the FBI from offering cash incentives for people to bring forth information the agency would otherwise be unable to obtain through legitimate processes.

9. Bar the FBI from invoking classification on routine criminal investigations and other activities where no such classification should be applied, thereby eliminating the practice of concealment of process failures and procedural lapses which violate policy. Subject all elevations of classification to be reviewed independently by DNI prior to FBI transferring records or information to FBINet.

10. Eliminate FBI's management of Uniform Crime Reporting (UCRs), NDEX (National Data Exchange), and the Internet Crime Complaint Center, and prohibit them from making jump-start grants for systems established regionally using FBI rules of operation.

11. Establish an immediate termination policy without right of rebuttal for any and all agents who act under the color of authority through intimidation, pretext, coercion and disregard for constitutional processes, and bar them from negotiating plea deals with individuals. The display of deadly force in routine search warrant service would be prohibited unless the effort involves suspects known to have committed gun crime violence prior to the service, and require approval of the Director to deploy weapons in the field beyond the assignment of the standard FBI sidearm. Require all warrants and searches to be facilitated by the county sheriffs and district attorneys without prior negotiation or agreement on allowing the FBI to unilaterally take control of scenes without legal observation.

12. Recall all liaison agents, and prohibit the Bureau from assigning, personnel posted to the news and entertainment industries who provide guidance and input on news, publications, and TV/movie scripts and production. This should include all telecommunications service providers, cable providers, and personnel embedded in such industry operational spaces with access to user records and account information. New: This includes partnerships with any and all social media companies, search engines, and other internet-based platforms. No coordination or review of content should be permitted, and no direction or influence should be permitted where FBI can prompt interest in content and influence social media monitoring or shadowbanning.

13. Cancel all Consent decrees with state and local law enforcement, and cancel all county memoranda or legal permissions granting FBI operational access within counties without the direct knowledge, permission and authorization of respective county sheriffs.

14. NEW: Require differentiation between the “domestic intelligence” responsibility and “foreign intelligence” through a new and updated Attorney General's Opinion stating the FBI mission space. FBI has NO domestic intelligence authorization but has turned the quagmire between itself and DHS into a word game. Bar FBI from using the “intelligence case” designation for all investigations involving US Persons and US Citizens without a clear observable nexus to a foreign power. Require all such cases to be reviewed for persistence and renewal authorizations under penalty of termination. Have those case propositions reviewed by ODNI before those cases can be activated. “Russian Collusion” doesn't qualify.

14 posted on 07/15/2023 6:10:46 AM PDT by Thawtam
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To: cableguymn

Hate to say it, but, IMO:

Biden deserves impeachment, removal from office and imprisonment, and not just as ‘political payback’ for Trump’s two impeachments. Almost anyone will correctly point out that the Senate cannot convict as it is currently composed, and probably not even with an improbable huge turnover in a near-term senate election cycle. 66% is a steep threshold, even with a massive majority, although it’s not implausible to think that a Democrat-held Senate could pull it off. (They have solidarity that the GOP lacks…)

I’d go so far as to guess that there are enough RINOs and squishy moderates in the slim Republican House majority that impeachment is far from a sure-thing. They’re certainly not going to get any help from the Dems.

This is why I won’t be to critical of McCarthy holding back. Ever see a ‘slam dunk’ where the player not only misses the shot, but pulls down the rim and breaks the glass backboard? That’s how a failed Biden impeachment would be portrayed in a gleeful drive-by media frenzy.


15 posted on 07/15/2023 6:14:21 AM PDT by DJ Frisat (If I say something exceptionally stupid, chances are I was writing the influence of AutoCorrect. 🙄🫤)
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To: RandFan

Republicans need to start playing as dirty as Democrats.

Impeach Willy nilly. The impeachment process theater is it’s own success.


16 posted on 07/15/2023 6:16:32 AM PDT by jdsteel (PA voters elected a stroke victim and a dead guy. Not a joke. )
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To: joma89

Yup. They *might* make a speech. If really serious, they *might* write a strongly worded letter.


17 posted on 07/15/2023 6:18:04 AM PDT by piytar (Do NOT forget Ashli Babbit!)
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To: DJ Frisat

“Biden deserves impeachment, removal from office and imprisonment, and not just as ‘political payback’ for Trump’s two impeachments. “

Biden deserves to get impeached just for overriding a SCOTUS decision on student loan forgiveness. Every week Biden does something which is an impeachable offense.


18 posted on 07/15/2023 6:52:38 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The Democrat Party - Dumbing Down America Since 1965.)
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To: CenTex

Then impeach her next...


19 posted on 07/15/2023 7:13:37 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: RandFan

Well, my whole life is an ongoing investigation.

And will be over when I depart this Earth.


20 posted on 07/15/2023 8:11:00 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob
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