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2025 Ram Ramcharger - Built By The Insane For The Gullible
Uncle Tony's Garage ^ | 2023/11/09 | Uncle Tony

Posted on 11/10/2023 9:53:17 AM PST by old-ager

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To: old-ager
Includes a 3.6 liter V6 to power on-board electric generator. The engine has no mechanical coupling to the drive train.

Nothing to go wrong here.


The word is that Mazda will do something similar with a rotary engine, which makes sense as rotary engines are light and work even better if they get to operate at a constant speed.
61 posted on 11/10/2023 11:46:58 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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To: Reverend Wright
The Prius actually works like that, so it can be done.

No. The Prius has an ICE engine that works with the drivetrain. The Chevy Volt came very close, though.
62 posted on 11/10/2023 11:48:14 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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To: Dr. Sivana

You are wrong.

Look at the link I had in comment #19


63 posted on 11/10/2023 11:58:19 AM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: old-ager

“Not especially relevant to pickemup trucks.”

Not in a free market. But once you have a command-and-control, top-down economy dictated by government idiots, this is what you get.


64 posted on 11/10/2023 11:58:46 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: old-ager

It doesn’t. see post #19 link.


65 posted on 11/10/2023 12:03:22 PM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Dr. Sivana

> The Chevy Volt came very close

That was what I read.


66 posted on 11/10/2023 12:04:32 PM PST by old-ager
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To: Nervous Tick

Chrysler used to be good at engineering. They built a turbine powered car 60 years ago.


67 posted on 11/10/2023 12:09:37 PM PST by Disambiguator
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To: Reverend Wright

I think the confusion is about the “drive by wire” feature where the _controls_ (NOT the wheels) are only connected to the gas engine electronically. The entire drive mechanism is pretty innovative.

Here’s some info on the modes of energy transmission:

Source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_Synergy_Drive

Engine & motor drive (Moderate acceleration)
ICE -> wheels
ICE -> MG1 -> MG2 -> wheels

Engine drive with charge (Highway driving)
ICE -> wheels
ICE -> MG1 -> HVB

Engine and motor drive with charge (Heavy power situation such as in steep hills)
ICE -> wheels
ICE -> MG1 -> HVB
ICE -> MG1 -> MG2 -> wheels

Full power or gradual slowing (Maximum power situations)
ICE -> wheels
ICE -> MG1 -> MG2 -> wheels
HVB -> MG2 -> wheels

FWIW from Bing chat:
Yes, the Prius engine connects to the drivetrain. The Prius has a power split device which includes a gearbox connecting the generator, gas engine, and electric motor. The Prius Gen 2 was the first to have this device. A ring gear attaches to the electric motor and transfers the motor’s power to a reduction gear on the final drive


68 posted on 11/10/2023 12:14:24 PM PST by old-ager
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To: old-ager

No. This guy goes thru the entire transmission of the Prius.

The motor is not connected.

he discusses the non connect at the prompt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmHpSyTsfm0&t=828s


69 posted on 11/10/2023 12:21:29 PM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: old-ager

145 mi range on battery. Well within the range of the vast majority of commuters. Those who have access to free/subsidized charging at work or home can commute cheap and comfortably, and still have a truck that can actually tow their boat/trailer/toys on the weekend. Existing electric trucks can’t do this. If RAM pulls this off, Ford and GM will follow. When camping off the grid, it would be nice to have a 92kwh battery.


70 posted on 11/10/2023 12:23:59 PM PST by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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To: Reverend Wright

Whatever, sir.


71 posted on 11/10/2023 12:24:02 PM PST by old-ager
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To: ETCM

> When camping off the grid, it would be nice to have a 92kwh battery.

Don’t you think a standalone generator would be a lot cheaper? And give you separable functionality and reliability between your truck and your electricity needs?

But go ahead and buy one. I am gonna laff when I see you go by with an empty bed 99% of the time and blow black smoke you paid a thousand bucks to add, and fake engine windup noises. Ok.


72 posted on 11/10/2023 12:26:33 PM PST by old-ager
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To: old-ager; All

Ok you are right the current version does lock the engine to the transmission.

But the previous versions of the Prius absolutely did operate with no mechanical connection, so it is possible.

https://youtu.be/-dHeRJdrnI8?t=6553


73 posted on 11/10/2023 12:26:40 PM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: All

From the responses, common sense, or any good sense, have gone out the window at least 20% here.


74 posted on 11/10/2023 12:27:44 PM PST by old-ager
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To: Reverend Wright

> it is possible

Of course it is possible. Trains have worked this way since the 40s or so.

The Pious sought maximum efficiency along with being a nice car.

Adding the mechanical coupling improved efficiency.


75 posted on 11/10/2023 12:28:56 PM PST by old-ager
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To: shotgun

it’s for camping...


76 posted on 11/10/2023 12:29:47 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Chode

You need 130 kW for camping? You realize a full-house backup generator is only 10 to 20 kW? You can carry a 1 kW generator with a handle, and it will do a lot while camping.


77 posted on 11/10/2023 12:46:57 PM PST by old-ager
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To: old-ager

Remember the K car? It was another Dodge / Chrysler morphodite vehicle. They couldn’t bury that POS fast enough.


78 posted on 11/10/2023 12:49:04 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance)
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To: old-ager
Don’t you think a standalone generator would be a lot cheaper?

That's what I currently use. actually, 2 of them that can be used alone or paralleled. I don't typically run them at night, as I'm in the wild to enjoy peace, quiet and the beautiful outdoors. Mostly I use them when needed to charge my LiFePO 4 batteries, or run the AC if it's really hot, and sometimes to power the toaster or microwave for breakfast.

The second paragraph of your comment is just retarded. I'm unlikely to buy one of these trucks. I currently drive a diesel pickup, and that will hopefully last another decade. It's my tow vehicle, not a work truck, so yes, the bed is empty most of the time and it's occasionally used as a "grocery getter". But it tows my boat and camper like a dream, where my F-150 struggled.

79 posted on 11/10/2023 12:55:24 PM PST by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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To: Organic Panic

Why don’t they just make a little more room for everyone in the car and install petals so they can help recharge the batteries?


80 posted on 11/10/2023 1:04:31 PM PST by Reno89519 (It's war. No one murders and takes Americans hostage. Time to act. Declare war on Islamic Hamas.)
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