Oh the Irony: Ukraine’s Zelensky Is Trying to Reach Donald Trump to Negotiate Continuing US Military Help to Kiev

thegatewaypundit.com ^ | Nov. 13, 2023 | Paul Serran

[ransomnote]

Has Kiev noticed where the real political power is in today’s America, or is it just a way to pressure the Biden ‘administration from hell’?

Before he was an unshaven, military-clad worrisome wartime leader we see today, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky was just a smiling, smart-looking, suit-wearing eastern European leader negotiating with US president Donald Trump in seemingly good faith.

However, a ‘perfect’ phone call between Trump and Zelensky was later weaponized by Democrats and used as justification for his first ‘impeachment hoax’.

 The Ukrainian leader refused to investigate the vast array of evidence of Biden family corruption tied to his country.

Once upon a time…

Now, as Trump stands out as the clear favorite to return to the White House in the run up to 2024 election, one is left wondering if the newly-revealed Zelensky rapprochement to the ‘America First leader’ is a new pragmatic geopolitical play by Kiev, or else is just a way to blackmail Biden into continuing to help them.

Zelensky now is reportedly ‘eager’ to negotiate directly with Trump, an ‘insider source’ in Kiev told Ukrainian outlet Strana on Sunday.

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[desertsolitaire]

This is an opportunity to open a dialogue urgently.
There are a significant number of voters who wish the US to help the Ukes negotiate from strength.
President Trump knows this too.
Electing him President in 2024 helps the Ukes negotiate from strength not weakness.
Pray for best guidance here.

[House Atreides]

Ukrainian supporters begin to leak their desperation.

[4Runner]

Why do so many FReepers not know about the Logan Act?

The Logan Act (1 Stat. 613, 18 U.S.C. § 953, enacted January 30, 1799) is a United States federal law that criminalizes negotiation by unauthorized American citizens with foreign governments.

John F’n Kerry has most often been a violator of this statute while a private citizen, with of course no consequences to him.

So who by affiliation is trying to lead Trump down this treacherous path? That snake the Ukrainian himself?

[House Atreides]

“ Why do so many FReepers not know about the Logan Act?”
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I suspect many who wish to involve Trump do, in fact, know about the act and dream of ensnaring a not-yet-President-elect-Trump into a violation.

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In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Oh the Irony: Ukraine’s Zelensky Is Trying to Reach Donald Trump to Negotiate Continuing US Military Help to Kiev, 4Runner wrote:

Why do so many FReepers not know about the Logan Act?

The Logan Act (1 Stat. 613, 18 U.S.C. § 953, enacted January 30, 1799) is a United States federal law that criminalizes negotiation by unauthorized American citizens with foreign governments.

John F’n Kerry has most often been a violator of this statute while a private citizen, with of course no consequences to him.

So who by affiliation is trying to lead Trump down this treacherous path? That snake the Ukrainian himself?

I think many Americans know about the Logan act, and believe Obama, Kerry, Clinton and others are all guilty of violating the Act.

I do believe the Deep State is still trying to grab Trump, or maybe set him up for some accusations they already cooked. Trump has already said  he wouldn't consider meeting with Zelensky  as  it is  up to the Biden administraiton to do that.

[McGruff]

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

[tlozo]

The Logan Act (1 Stat. 613, 18 U.S.C. § 953, enacted January 30, 1799) is a United States federal law that criminalizes negotiation by unauthorized American citizens with foreign governments.

The Logan Act is a United States federal law that criminalizes negotiation by unauthorized American citizens with foreign governments having a dispute with the United States

What is the "dispute" with Ukraine?

[roving]

As far as I know, no one’s ever been charged with Logan Act. But I guarantee you they would do it to Trump.

[trebb]

Zelensky - “Joe is good at sucking mine - now I may have to suck Trump’s”

[SpokeshaveReturns]

Trumps perfect phone call to Zelinskey would include something like this....

“We have all the receipts on bribe money sent to Ukraine by the Biden crime family....and your presence at grand jury events to corroborate the payments is required

Also...we want all our money back.

[SpokeshaveReturns]

I guess that is why John F’n Kerry was sitting in at the big meeting with dictator and President for life of China XI.

[teeman8r]

Trump cannot get away with foreign negotiations like John Kerry did.

[tlozo]

Zelensky - “Joe is good at sucking mine - now I may have to suck Trump’s”

Is that what Prime Minister of Israel Netanyahu is doing when he is asking for US aid?

[Mouton]

The Bidet tried to argue that gen Flynn violated it. That was when BO was leaving.

[4Runner]

Just try, as the private citizen that you are, negotiating with another country or government any kind of arms deal or treaty on behalf of the United States, and watch just WTF happens to you, genius.

[4Runner]

Exactly right.

[OKSooner]

Someone tell him to call Vindman.

[desertsolitaire]

Crazy hoe the Logan Act only ever seems to apply to Republicans.
There will be a reckoning.

[4Runner]

PDJT can do as President a lot of things he cannot do as a private citizen. This is a trap for the unwary, a trick to ensnare Trump in an illegality. No one on FR should EVER see it for anything other than what it is. Shame on any Trump supporter if they do.