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To: Oratam
said, "Christ Bearer" by the catholic church in their context means Mary was the mother of god.
Wrong. It's the literal meaning of "Christopher."


It means "Gods mother" IE: the mother goddess.
The primary god of Babylonian mystics.


It means Christotokos or specifically "Mother of Jesus."
https://www.gotquestions.org/Christotokos.html

"Mother of Jesus" can say, "Mother of god" For the Catholic church the son of god is Jesus of the Trinity.

Though in this reference Columbus put it in the masonic triangle which I'm interpreting as "Gods mother."
Should i get into why say that? or do you care?

"You believe a lot of nonsense."
Of course it's none sense. It's what they believe not me.
I'm trying to figure out who they are and what they believe. I don't care if others don't want to learn about them. If I'm wrong about an issue. That is fine. I am learning.
880 posted on 01/10/2024 4:54:21 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn
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881 posted on 01/10/2024 5:00:08 PM PST by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Steve, you’re on the right track for answers to natural curiosity. A smaller question can turn into a maze quickly, they say.

I am no expert on Masonic-anything in the Church, and avoid the discussion, preferring to lop it off as one more satanic vehicle used against the Church along with every other, of which scriptures warn.

The prickly part for Catholics is the simple story of Fr. Michael McGiviny, the Knights of Columbus, and
seeing the leap into Babylonian sourcery and withcraft intruding on that simpler story, and on poor Columbus.

It’s typical to hear even basic Traditional Roman Catholicism explained mostly by non-Catholics, which for Catholics is naturally tiresome. But, being not to long ago a considered “peculiar people” themselves, Catholics became quite outnumbered by non-Catholic critics, historians, agnostics, etc.

Since Vatican II Catholics
seem less harshly criticised by modern media, because the New Order Mass and social direction is no longer “peculiar” at all, but quite more pedestrian and much more compatible with the world and the marketplace. The VII fruits fulfilled, regardless of the objections.

All this to hope you weight maybe even equally, 50-50, pre-60’s sources who are actually Catholic within the scope of your study. Its very interesting.


1,049 posted on 01/11/2024 11:08:33 AM PST by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey. For Greater Glory. HIS. )
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