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We Don’t Want a Border Deal, We Want Deportations
Townhall ^ | 2/6/2024 | Derek Hunter

Posted on 02/06/2024 9:05:38 AM PST by Signalman

Maybe Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell is playing 5D chess and everyone else is simply picking their noses. And maybe picking Oklahoma Senator James Lankford to negotiate on behalf of Republicans was a stroke of genius – he was just reelected in 2022, so any anger he inspires will likely dissipate before he faces voters again. And just maybe McConnell knew that any deal would be unacceptable to Republicans because Democrats want open borders, so he set up this scenario so he could claim to have tried, then will separate out the foreign aid part, which is all he really cares about. Maybe. But I don’t care. A message needs to be sent here that we, the people, do not want a “deal” on the border, we want a border. A border that is vigorously enforced, and we want a government that deports everyone here illegally. And we want it done quickly.

Expect Democrats to start whining about how they “gave up” the idea of amnesty and citizenship for the illegal aliens already here is some sort of “compromise.” But they didn’t. Citizenship is their ultimate goal, and as long as the illegals are here, it’s still on the table for the future.

But their immediate need is to flood the zone for federal aid distribution and Congressional district redrawing purposes.

See, thanks to Democrats, immigrants count in the census, and their status – either being here illegally or legally – has no impact on what our government does with those numbers. Federal aid to cities and states is disbursed by population, not citizen population, so more illegals means more money; it means states get to gerrymander differently to protect Democrat congressional seats. These people are evil, not stupid.

This bill is an embarrassment to anyone interested in securing our border.

Democrats, after years of insisting there was no crisis at the border, that it was secure and Republicans were simply fearmongering on the issue, have now switched to, “If you want a secure border, this bill creates one.” If the second statement is true, the first one can’t be. If the first statements were true, the second one is a lie.

Of course, we know Democrats have been lying all along; they have no interest in a secure border because an open one serves their purposes. So, they lie about everything.'

Democrats have to lie because the truth does them no favors. “Illegal aliens commit fewer crimes than Americans do.” That’s an easy claim to make because Democrats forbid the collection of data to prove it in states they control and on the federal level. That it can’t be proven isn’t what matters, that it can’t be disproven is all that does.

They do this everywhere. “Crime is actually down,” is another one of their lies. Violent crime is up, as is assault and sex crimes. What’s “down” is property crimes and theft, largely because there’s no point in reporting them since liberal prosecutors won’t prosecute the criminals. It’s not like the crimes aren’t happening, it’s that people are being conditioned by Soros-funded prosecutors to not bother calling the cops anymore unless someone is dead, sexually assaulted or beaten. It’s like if you killed all the sick people, then threw yourself a parade for having such a healthy population.

Most of what Democrats say is wildly dishonest, but few lies are greater than what they say about the border.

This bill, they insist, will require the President to shut down the border if they catch 5,000 illegals, on average, for 7 days.

First, would you trust this administration with accurately counting and reporting those numbers? Second, this provision, which is still incredibly weak, can be waived by the President in case of an “emergency.” What constitutes an emergency is open to anything a President thinks it to be – like, say, a bunch of illegal aliens crashing to border. Yes, it’s that stupid.

It also creates a new “right” for illegals to get lawyers, and uses our tax money (actually our great grandkids’ credit cards, because our tax money is already spent) to pay for it. We pay for their lawyers, those liberal lawyers donate to Democrats, Democrats keep funding lawyers for illegals…lather, rinse, repeat – the circle of life in DC.

To hell with all of these people. It needs to be made clear that selling us out will not be tolerated. A bill without any deportation is unacceptable, in fact, only a bill with only deportation and massive fines for anyone who hires them before they’re found is all we’ll accept. The only funding should be for 100,000 (temporary, but for as long as it takes) deputy ICE agents to identify illegals to ICE itself and for flights out of the country. Where they want to go does not matter, just out of here. Let where they land deal with the rest.

It also needs to eliminate funding for any state that allows illegals to collect any welfare benefits that receive federal tax dollars. States can do what they want with their money, they don’t get the same ability with federal money.

And end birthright citizenship, period. It was never meant to be that way and everyone knows it, kill it now and forever.

Washington, DC, can choke on this bill. In fact, they can choke on every bill. Any and all patience or caring about illegal immigrants is gone, the American people are sick of it and all they lying about it. Get the illegals out, or get the politicians who enable it or who are even slightly soft on it, out.

I get that this will lead to nothing changing, but better no deal than a counter-productive bad one.

Until then, avoid places that employ illegals, or allow them to congregate in their parking lots looking for under-the-table work. Metaphorically spit on the politicians who protect them, blow off any friends who support them. As a Catholic, join me in stopping giving money to the church to enable them, whatever your church. Be done with it. Anyone, any group or organization “welcoming” illegals is giving you the finger, give it right back. They’re only able to do what they do because we engage in commerce with them. Stop it.

This is a time for choosing, Americans or not? There is no tie, it’s one or the other. Until we can get rid of the welcome mats in our own party, and the enablers in theirs, we have to enforce the line that needs to be drawn the best way we can, with our wallets and then our votes.

No dice, no deal; deportations. The time for deals is over, they had their chance and blew it. This isn’t the start of negotiations, it’s the end of them. We’ll see where the American people really are in November. Until then, nothing.


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To: Kazan

I know I do.


21 posted on 02/06/2024 9:50:14 AM PST by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: Signalman
"You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before."~~ Rahm Emanuel

Fait accompli?

22 posted on 02/06/2024 9:53:40 AM PST by buckalfa (Gut feelings are your guardian angels)
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To: Renfrew

wrong.


23 posted on 02/06/2024 9:58:27 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Signalman

PREACH IT!!!!!


24 posted on 02/06/2024 10:00:24 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: Kazan

That, too.


25 posted on 02/06/2024 10:01:43 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: Williams

NO!!!

They are not insane. I wish people would stop crediting them with mental illness.

They are EVIL and this is intentional. Let’s call it for what it is and stop giving them the benefit of the doubt.


26 posted on 02/06/2024 10:03:45 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: Renfrew
Any of the Republican governors could end the illegals problem in 5 mins if they wanted. Simply make it a crime to hire illegals

In most States, the legislature makes the laws.

27 posted on 02/06/2024 10:05:41 AM PST by T Ruth (Mohammedanism shall be destroyed.)
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To: PIF
I live in OK.

Didn't vote for this weasel..........

28 posted on 02/06/2024 10:09:12 AM PST by Osage Orange (I miss Rush)
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To: Signalman

You can deport all you want but they will be back within a week. this is not a solution.


29 posted on 02/06/2024 10:17:16 AM PST by BillT (If you can not stand behind our military, you might as well stand in front of them!)
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To: Signalman

There are some mistakes that are SO obvious that only really educated people are inclined to make them.


30 posted on 02/06/2024 10:18:02 AM PST by MMusson
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To: Signalman

What is the need for a “deal”, a “negotiation”, or a “compromise”?

This is not a problem for Congress at all. The laws as written are perfectly clear, they are more than adequate to deal with the situation.

Unless Congress is willing to remove Biden for non-performance of his sworn duty to faithfully execute the laws, they can go into recess for all I care.


31 posted on 02/06/2024 10:20:12 AM PST by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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To: Signalman

Biden is speaking on this horrible bill now, if it’s so important to him let’s see how many questions he takes:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/


32 posted on 02/06/2024 10:21:44 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Mouton
If they do not self deport or take the offer, load them onto C-5s and drop them anywhere beyond the 12 mile ocean territory.

You're a savage.

I am willing to provide straw and bottled water in the boxcars just to show how compassionate I am.

33 posted on 02/06/2024 10:22:43 AM PST by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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To: Signalman
As I have said before, take illegals at the border, process them, put them on a bus, to an airport/port, close by, that is staffed and planes/ships ready too go. Military or Civilian airport/ports and planes/ships.

As they get off the bus, ask them, what country they came from, when they say, point to the proper plane/ship, going to or close to that Country, and say, get onboard.

Once the plane/ship is full, head to that country, kick them out and wish them a good day. Tell them, next time, come in the proper way. If the Countries try to stop the planes/ships, tell them, if you do, we will cut any aid/help, the USA provides, until you agree. Or the planes/ships will have military escorts.

34 posted on 02/06/2024 10:27:59 AM PST by Ez2BRepub (don't know)
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To: GOPJ; poconopundit; Jane Long; Diana in Wisconsin; Grampa Dave; Godzilla; Vaduz; null and void; ...

If you know who your representative is but you are unable to contact them using their contact form, the Clerk of the House maintains addresses and phone numbers of all House members and Committees.

Or call (202) 224-3121 for the U.S. House switchboard operator.


A message needs to be sent here: we, the people,
do not want a “deal” on the border, we want a border.

A border that is vigorously enforced, and we want a government that deports everyone here illegally. And we want it done quickly.


35 posted on 02/06/2024 10:38:36 AM PST by Liz (Matthew 11.28-30: Come to me, all you who are weary and heavy laden, and I will give you strength.)
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To: PIF

No, I am right.


36 posted on 02/06/2024 10:49:34 AM PST by Renfrew (Muscovia delenda est)
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To: Williams

Not insane, but evil


37 posted on 02/06/2024 10:51:05 AM PST by Freee-dame
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To: Signalman
Key: we want a government that deports everyone here illegally. And we want it done quickly.
38 posted on 02/06/2024 11:21:26 AM PST by Reno89519 (Biden, Democrats, and Some Republicans may have surrendered, but I have not. Defend America!)
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To: Signalman
How about a simple bill:

1. Deport all illegals; round them up and deport them.

2. Implement E-Verify and take their jobs away. Prosecute employers that hire, even temporary and part-time.

3. No drivers licenses to illegals; use those lists to round them up and deport them.

4. No federal aid, except life saving. Immediately deport thereafter.

5. Set up emergency courts, complete all hearings by the end of the year.

6. Anyone crossing illegally barred permenantly from re-entry.

7. Offer a reward for any employer or citizen turning in an illegal.

39 posted on 02/06/2024 11:27:00 AM PST by Reno89519 (Biden, Democrats, and Some Republicans may have surrendered, but I have not. Defend America!)
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To: Renfrew
Any of the Republican governors could end the illegals problem in 5 mins if they wanted. Simply make it a crime to hire illegals and the economic incentive vanishes.

That's not true. Even CA attempted this about 15 years ago. The company I work for had to let go a number of installers (Union guys) because they could not prove citizenship.

The guys we had to let go all went to work for our competitors because they didn't care about the new law. Now nobody checks, nobody cares and wages in the non-union sector are stagnant at best.
40 posted on 02/06/2024 11:39:41 AM PST by glaseatr (Father of a Marine, Uncle of SGT Adam Estep. A Co. 2/5 Cav. KIA Thurs April 29, 2004 Baghdad Iraq)
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