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I see the excess M2 money supply still sloshing around is blowing another bubble!
1 posted on 03/23/2024 7:13:51 AM PDT by millenial4freedom
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I can see AI manipulating the market place to drive stocks up so people buy them, so venture funds can cash in at high points and then let the stock crash so they can buy it up again.

The only defense to this is to find stocks that have solid value behind them and hold onto them and take the dividends.


2 posted on 03/23/2024 7:15:44 AM PDT by Jonty30 (Do you know why I'm always right? It's because I know everything. )
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Headline doesn’t quite agree with the article. He’s buying the 2yr Bond, shorting the long end. I’ve been sticking with the 3-6 T-Bills for about 18 months. I’m going to start moving into the 2yr as well.

Inflation is heading up again, looks like one rate cut at best this year. We’ve seen this movie before.


3 posted on 03/23/2024 7:23:23 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Are you ready for Black Lives MAGA? It's coming.)
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To: millenial4freedom
AI is difficult for any investor to understand because it doesn't fit classical valuation models. But it is particularly difficult for fixed-income investors to understand.

I say this (above) because I have been an AI investor for several years and have had a chance to watch how the market responds to its development.

The market sees that there is significant value to AI stocks like Nvidia and AMD, but it has difficulty understanding how these stocks' values are not a measurable function of foreseeable earnings. Both Nvidia and AMD are more a function of the estimated future demand for AI chips and platforms (the AI market) than for future earnings.

That's why Nvidia (more than AMD) moves 3 steps forward and 2 steps back...and sometimes even drops when very positive earnings results are reported (and this isn't just because of investor disappointment in earnings reported...it is often because investors don't know how to interpret the results).

4 posted on 03/23/2024 7:31:12 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a closed mind will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: millenial4freedom

So, Bill Gross is generally avoiding AI related stocks and not buying bonds. Where’s he putting his money in? CDs?


8 posted on 03/23/2024 7:49:59 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: millenial4freedom

Stocks have always been risky, but I got out just before the dot-com bust and never looked back. It became just plain gambling, IMO. And yes, I could have made a killing had I stayed in. That was also common knowledge in September of 1929 too. But October was a comin’.🤣


15 posted on 03/23/2024 10:28:00 AM PDT by cuban leaf (2024 is going to be one for the history books, like 1939. And 2025 will be more so, like 1940-1945.)
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To: millenial4freedom

I remember, the december before the dot-com bust, a friend talking about his stock portfolio and how amazing it had been doing. I remember thinking of that investor just before the crash of 1929 deciding to get out when his shoe shine boy was talking about his own stock portfolio doing so well.

I got out just before the bust, but to be honest, I had to because of divorce fallout. I even paid the penalty for cashing out my 401K, but I still made out a lot better than if I’d hung on to it when the bust came (unless I hung on to it for another couple of decades, of course).


16 posted on 03/23/2024 10:32:27 AM PDT by cuban leaf (2024 is going to be one for the history books, like 1939. And 2025 will be more so, like 1940-1945.)
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To: millenial4freedom

bttt


17 posted on 03/23/2024 10:39:54 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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I agree on the excessive exhuberance stocks are getting, mostly on projections/belief of increased revenues and profits TO COME (over time) from the use of AI. THAT is also noticeable because the DOW and S&P indexes have risen mostly from stock value rises of just a few big companies that are heavy weights in the index, mostly “tech” related.

The truth is that belief right now is hype and yet to materialize greatly. It may, or it may not. Only a very few companies right now, like Nvidia, is actually, demonstrably seeing revenue and profit growth from AI. That is because they are not on the end-user side of AI but on the AI chip making side. Yes they are benefitting from the surge in attention to AI with every company wanting to build their internal AI processes. Their stock holders may be greatly disappointed if time proves the current atmosphere is one of excessive exhuberance.


18 posted on 03/23/2024 2:58:52 PM PDT by Wuli (ena)
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