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To: kiryandil; Petrosius

The outer perimeter, is the border of Ukraine, and nothing inside, is Russian territory.


https://twitter.com/BrilliantMaps/status/1498655743167315976

Electoral Geography:

https://www.electoralgeography.com/new/en/countries/u/ukraine/ukraine-independence-referendum-1991.html

- - - Ethnic Groups in Ukraine - 1926 Soviet Cencus

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Moscow's proxy war in, and invasion of, Ukraine, was planned by Putin, long ago:

Putin began planning the invasion of Georgia, in 1999.

Putin began planning the invasion of Ukraine, in 2003. See:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2AwAXcScds

On The Effective Use of Proxy Warfare - by Andrew Lewis Peek, May 2021, Dissertation for PhD

CHAPTER THREE: RUSSIA AND UKRAINE, 2013-2016 [pg 118 of 446 in the PDF file] "This chapter will examine Russia’s use of proxy forces in Ukraine from the beginning of demonstrations in Kiev’s Maidan Square on November 21, 2013 to the dissipation of the conflict in 2016. Though it covers all the high-intensity periods of the war, this chapter is focused on the fighting in Donbas and not Russia’s takeover of Crimea."

The Budapest Memorandum And The Russia-Ukraine Crisis

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91 posted on 05/07/2024 5:23:45 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: linMcHlp

When Putin turned 70, he was living beyond his expiry date. It was invade now or never


92 posted on 05/07/2024 5:25:52 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Hamascide is required in totality)
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To: kiryandil; Petrosius

Yet, Ukraine does not have the ability to recover its lost territory.

IMHO, UKraine could - if Germany firmly takes the side of Ukraine against Russian annex-ploitation.

Russian annex-ploitation must be resisted. But Germany wants to restore trade relations with Russia.

Yet, Germany also will supply munitions to Ukraine, *IF* the U.S.A. leads (and takes the blame).

I favor helping Ukraine with anti-air, anti-drone systems; and, we certainly need to learn and improve upon the lessons.

But the Ukraine ground game really depends upon German production.

I maintain that Ukraine must negotiate for peace, while it can, with what it can, holding on to what it can.

Ukraine notions that Ukraine will somehow be repaid for the damages . . . probably not going to happen.

Russia must STOP.


94 posted on 05/07/2024 5:35:08 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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