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To: Destro
Ataturk prevented the Allied breakout at Gallipoli early on their occupation (it was his onsite leadership), but for him they would have broken through to Constantinople and the Balkans. I agree that Forrest was probably the greatest strategist of the Civil War but I don't think RE Lee qualifies among the greatest generals; among the greatest LEADERS YES, but I have to balance his masterpiece at Chancellorsville against the blunders at Antietam, the valiant but disastrous battle plan at Gettysburg and his inability to do much of anything in the western Confederacy that taint his generalship.
78 posted on 08/31/2002 3:17:37 PM PDT by laconic
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To: laconic
German Field Marshal LIMAN VON SANDERS commanded the Turkish defenses throughout the Gallipoli campaign. ESSAD PASHA was the Turkish Corps Commander of the forces opposing those at Anzac. He commanded the Turkish offensive of May 19, and Ataturk was under his command. So you see Ataturk was third in line so that is why I disqualify him in the top 20 or 30. Top 100 for sure.

General Lee did much. He preserved the South longer than it would have existed by his generalship.

80 posted on 08/31/2002 3:39:55 PM PDT by Destro
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To: laconic
Lee did not have control over the west, Davis bungled that with his boy Bragg.
119 posted on 09/02/2002 7:38:14 AM PDT by wardaddy
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