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Need help on Civil Rights Act of 1964 - GOP votes
11/11/2002 | VRWCmember

Posted on 11/11/2002 3:18:00 PM PST by VRWCmember

I need a little help from my FReeper friends. A friend and I were discussing why blacks blindly support the demonrat party. He said "sure the GOP was AWOL in 1964 on the Civil Rights Act, but what have the democrats done since then to help blacks..." I disagreed with his premise that the GOP didn't support the Civil Rights Act, since as I recall the law was passed based on support from republicans and over opposition of southern demos including Al Gore, Sr. Does anyone here know where I can find the breakdown of how demos voted and how repubs voted on that Act? Thanks FReepers.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: civilrightsact; democratlies

1 posted on 11/11/2002 3:18:00 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: VRWCmember
I know in the Senate a higher percentage of GOPers voted FOR it.

I also know Al Gore Sr. voted against it.

2 posted on 11/11/2002 3:31:40 PM PST by NeoCaveman
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To: dubyaismypresident
I knew I had read those factoids, but don't know where to find the back-up data or actual statistics.
3 posted on 11/11/2002 3:33:35 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: VRWCmember
He opposed the (potential) Civil Rights laws so fervently that Byrd (still "the" democrat Senator from WV) actually ran as an independent AGAINST the Kennedy proposal in the 1960 election.

Noxon favored passage of most of the parts of the plan also, but that fact is conveniently forgotten as well in today's liberal brainwashing/whiteashing of St. Kennedy.

Johnson saw it as part of his "Great Society" and pushed it through to lock in votes.

Johnson himself? Hard to say: he was so thoroughly political that even IF he opposed it privately, but saw Civil Rights as something he (Johnson) would gain from - he'd back it in public.
4 posted on 11/11/2002 3:49:39 PM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE
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To: VRWCmember
Massive cut + paste from R. D. Davis' site follows, but the link doesn't seem to want to copy formatted (too long?)

Bill Bradley Fouls the Civil Rights Act

by R.D. Davis


A New Visions Commentary paper published December 1999 by The National Center for Public Policy Research, 777 N. Capitol St. NE, Suite 803, Washington, D.C. 20002,
202/371-1400, Fax 202/408-7773, E-Mail

Project21@nationalcenter.org, Web

http://www.nationalcenter.org. Reprints permitted provided source is credited.


Former basketball star and current Democratic presidential candidate Bill Bradley hasn't fouled an opponent on the basketball court in years, but lately he's fouling the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Bradley claims the congressional vote on the Act led to which political party he would join. Oh, really?

On October 9, 1999 at an Iowa Jefferson-Jackson Day Dinner, Bradley exclaimed: "I remember the exact moment that I became a Democrat. It was the summer of 1964; I was an intern in Washington between my junior and senior year in college. And I was in the Senate chamber the night the 1964 Civil Rights Act passed that desegregated public accommodations in America... And I became a Democrat because it was the party of justice. It was Democrats that stepped forward that evening in the Senate and cast their vote that washed away the stain of segregation in this country."

I believe that Democrats have lied about who supported the Civil Rights Act for so long that they actually believe their lies. But anytime this lie is retold, I feel compelled to debunk it. So here we go again...

The Congressional Quarterly of June 26, 1964 (p. 1323) recorded that, in the Senate, only 69% of Democrats (46 for, 21 against) voted for the Civil Rights Act as compared to 82% of Republicans (27 for, 6 against). All southern Democratic senators voted against the Act. This includes the current senator from West Virginia and former KKK member Robert C. Bryd and former Tennessee senator Al Gore, Sr. (the father of Bradley's Democratic opponent). Surely young Bradley must have flunked his internship because ostensibly he did not learn that the Act's primary opposition came from the southern Democrats' 74-day filibuster. In addition, he did not know that 21 is over three times as much as six, otherwise he would have become - according to the logic of his statement - a Republican.

In the House of Representatives, 61% of Democrats (152 for, 96 against) voted for the Civil Rights Act; 92 of the 103 southern Democrats voted against it. Among Republicans, 80% (138 for, 34 against) voted for it.

Since Bradley was interning in the Senate, why doesn't he remember the major role the Republicans played in fighting for civil rights? During the Eisenhower Administration, the Republican Party made more progress in civil rights than in the preceding 80 years. According to Congressional Quarterly, "Although the Democratic-controlled Congress watered them down, the Administration's recommendations resulted in significant and effective civil rights legislation in both 1957 and 1960 - the first civil rights statutes to be passed in more than 80 years" ("The Republican Party 1960 Civil Rights Platform," May 1964). It reported on April 5, 1963 that, " A group of eight Republican senators in March joined in introducing a series of 12 civil rights bills that would implement many of the recommendations made in the Civil Rights Commission report of 1961."

The principal measures introduced by these Republicans broadened the Civil Rights Act of 1964, making it "designed to pass unlike Democratic 'public relations' attempts" (CQ, February 15, 1963, p. 191). Republican senators overwhelmingly "chided" President John Kennedy about his "failure to act in this field (civil rights)." Republican senators criticized the Kennedy Administration's February 28, 1963 civil rights message as "falling far short" of the Civil Rights Commission's recommendations and both party platforms. "If the President will not assume the leadership in getting through Congress urgently needed civil rights measures," the Republican senators said, " then Congress must take the initiative" (CQ, April 5, 1963, p. 527).

At the signing of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, President Lyndon B. Johnson praised the Republicans for their "overwhelming" support. Roy Wilkins, then-NAACP chairman, awarded Republican Senate Minority Leader Everett Dirksen of Illinois the Leadership Conference of Civil Rights Award for his "remarkable civil rights leadership." Moreover, civil rights activist Andrew Young wrote in his book An Easy Burden that "The southern segregationists were all Democrats, and it was black Republicans... who could effectively influence the appointment of federal judges in the South" (p. 96). Young added that the best civil rights judges were Republicans appointed by President Dwight Eisenhower and that "these judges are among the many unsung heroes of the civil rights movement."

The historical facts and numbers show the Republican Party was more for civil rights than the Democrats from "the party of justice," as Bill Bradley called it. The Civil Rights Act of 1964, in reality, could not have been passed without Republican votes. It is an "injustice" for contemporary Democratic politicians and the liberal news media to continue to not give the Republicans credit for their civil rights triumphs. Now is the time for Republicans to start informing black Americans of those historical triumphs to lead them back to their "home party."


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(R.D. Davis is a member of Project 21 and a writer and radio talk show host in Huntsville, Alabama.)


5 posted on 11/11/2002 4:09:50 PM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE
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To: VRWCmember
I don't remember when the bill passed in 1964 or which senators voted for it.

But I think that the Republican candidate for president that November, and his support for states' rights and opposition to the bill, has something to do with blacks' attitudes towards Rep candidates ...

Mike Fieschko, who leafletted for AuH2O
6 posted on 11/11/2002 5:34:33 PM PST by Mike Fieschko
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE; VRWCmember
Thanks for putting this thread up, Vast.

And thank you, Cook, for bringing in the literature. I remember a lot of this, although I was only a baby at the time. LOL!

7 posted on 11/11/2002 6:02:09 PM PST by Slip18
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To: VRWCmember
Over 80% of GOPers supported the Civil Rights Acts, while only about 60% of the racist Dems (who BTW lead filbusters, including Al Gore Sr.) supported it.
8 posted on 11/11/2002 6:04:24 PM PST by Always Right
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Thanks Robert. That is extremely benficial. And my good friend, who has the same initials and same first name as me (tam, not VRWC), will also appreciate it greatly.

You da man!
9 posted on 11/11/2002 8:28:38 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: VRWCmember
None of this is mine, I pieced it together from here and there:

I little history first:

Eisenhower got 60 percent of the black vote in the election of 1956. And it was a Republican senator, Everett Dirksen of Illinois, who broke the longest filibuster in the U.S. Senate conducted by the Democrats over the 1957 Civil Rights Act.

It was a Republican president, Dwight D. Eisenhower, who sent the National Guard to Little Rock in 1957 to ensure the peaceful, landmark integration of Central High School.

Democratic Southerners who were responsible for implementing Jim Crow laws. Eisenhower appointed the liberal Republican judges in the South who implemented Brown vs. Board of Education -- the Supreme Court decision that ended the notion of "separate but equal" and outlawed Jim Crow.

It was Republicans who voted overwhelmingly for the Civil Rights Act of 1964 as well as the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

According to Congressional Quarterly, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 passed the House 290-130, and Republican support for the bill was much stronger than Democratic: 61 percent (152-96) of the Democrats supported the legislation while 80 percent (138-34) of the Republicans backed it. These numbers were similar in the Senate -- 69 percent of Democrats (46-21), backed the bill along with 82 percent of Republicans (27-6).

Gore's father, Sen. Al Gore Sr., D-Tenn., was one of the 21 Democrats who voted against it. So was Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W.V., himself a former member of the Ku Klux Klan.

It was pretty much the same for the Voting Rights Act of 1965. In the House, 82 percent of the Republicans backed the bill; in the Senate, 94 percent of the Republicans backed it. Gore Sr. voted for the bill this time, but 17 other Southern Democrats voted against it -- including Sen. J. William Fulbright of Arkansas, a mentor to President Bill Clinton.

It was Nixon who created the federal Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, believe it or not.

But in their efforts to paint the GOP as warm and inclusive, these GOP amateur historians' memories can also seem a tad shaky. While accurately heralding Dirksen's actions to end the 1957 filibuster, for instance, Harley neglects to mention that the South Carolina senator conducting the filibuster was Strom Thurmond -- who within seven years would find a new home on the Republican side of the aisle.

But, Dirksen did end the filibuster, but it was a democrat Strom Thurmond (who 7 years later switches to the Republican side) conducting the filibuster

Really though, I wouldn't be going that far back to really ask why Af-Ams are with the Democrats. The 80's and 90's really showed who was willing to take their side. Even if it was by treating them as second hand children with handouts instead of real help, the Democrats really know how to spin words and make people think that they are wanted.
11 posted on 11/12/2002 8:01:20 AM PST by cdefreese
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To: VRWCmember
sorry, I forgot this link to some more info if anyone has the Rush 24/7 membership.
www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/folder/civilrightslie.guest.html

also, a pdf on civil rights and the parties in general:
www.lcrny.org/chapters/hv/factsheet-hv.pdf

Still, I believe the support stems not from 'What have you done for me?', but from 'What have you dont for me lately?'.

I hope the links come out correctly. It's been a long time since I have done any HTML.
12 posted on 11/12/2002 8:10:30 AM PST by cdefreese
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
That was Harry Byrd from Virginia, not Robert Byrd from West Virginia. The Prince of Pork was not elected to the Senate until 1962.
13 posted on 11/12/2002 2:40:13 PM PST by ThreeYearLurker
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To: ThreeYearLurker
Ah.....

As they would say in Texas while mowing the lawn, muchas grassiass.
14 posted on 11/12/2002 3:10:36 PM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE
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