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Fantasy Iraq Invasion (Part One)
Posted on 11/17/2002 8:18:36 AM PST by Sparta
This the first of a two(maybe more) part Iraqi Fantasy Invasion. We will use part one to gather and post the needed intel for the invasion. I have a website that will help plan our invasion.
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posted on 11/17/2002 8:18:36 AM PST
To: sphinx; Toirdhealbheach Beucail; curmudgeonII; roderick; Notforprophet; river rat; csvset; ...
posted on 11/17/2002 8:25:36 AM PST
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posted on 11/17/2002 8:26:18 AM PST
To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
posted on 11/17/2002 8:32:28 AM PST
posted on 11/17/2002 8:32:47 AM PST
Out standing post Sparta
Bump for general interest of all armchair generals out there
posted on 11/17/2002 8:35:16 AM PST
Here is a good map indicating terrain and the road nets
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posted on 11/17/2002 8:42:20 AM PST
This is an important map indicating Scud Target areas and origins
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posted on 11/17/2002 12:00:08 PM PST
Many will discount the piece below but it is important when considering the Western Scud box.
The elimination of the Western Scud Box and protection of Israel and Jordan is priority #1
"King Abdullah and Jordanian ministers have been consistent in denying the presence of American troops on their soil. They insist that Jordanian bases will not serve as jumping off points for an assault against Iraq. These denials were repeated by the Jordanian king, when he called on Saudi crown prince Abdullah in Jedda Monday, August 12.
On this central front, the American war plan calls for a US force, built around a backbone of armored and special forces, to push into western Iraq and seize the strategic group of air bases - H-3 northwest, H-3 northeast, H-3 main base and the H-3 landing strip, which consists of a stretch of highway running from western Iraq across the border into central Jordan. US and Jordanian forces will also capture H-2, northeast of the Iraqi city of Ar Rutbah"
posted on 11/17/2002 1:23:54 PM PST
I like the idea. Let the neo-con armchair chickenhawk generals put their minds to work. (joking)
posted on 11/17/2002 1:45:02 PM PST
The CSIS list of Iraqi Air Targets is Here
Center for Strategic and International Studies
posted on 11/17/2002 1:46:39 PM PST
Excellent post. Also, another good source is the CIA World Handbook for a nation's economy. Also, look on the FAS and Global Security websites.
posted on 11/17/2002 1:53:34 PM PST
Some think the war is currently underway here
While the political and media world in US and Europe is getting hotter with discussion on the campaign against Iraq, some sources around the Turkish intelligence confirm that consistent forces of US and UK are already penetrated in Iraqi territory. They are not only special operations units like the Special Air Service (already since March active behind the Iraqi lines to locate strategic targets, sites of mass destruction weapons and underground bunkers of ballistic Scud missiles ramp) but also conventional units completely deployed in the Iraqi Kurdistan, which is in the northern region situated between the borders with Turkey
posted on 11/17/2002 2:24:42 PM PST
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Although I agree that we have probably already done a lot of work over there, I'm wondering why Sadam hasn't said anything about this. You think that he would be shouting to the rooftops that the evil Americans have violated his territory.
I guess I'll come out as one of the fanatics on this subject, but I'll attempt to make my case. I hope that the moderator will understand my statement as well and allow it to stand without removal. But I feel stongly enough about this that I'll risk my posting priviledges and say what needs to be said.
As long as we make any attempt to keep this conflict "conventional" we have lost our opportunity to end the game once and for all, and must continue this cycle of skirmishes. The only thing that the Islamists understand or respect is ruthlessness - pure violence. Our politically correct methods of avoiding collateral damage goes too far in sterilizing warfare and makes us appear as weaklings to them. War is supposed to be grisly. War is supposed to be Hell on Earth. War is not supposed to be a 3D video game, as that disconnects the warrior from his trade until you get down to the squad level soldiers.
We have no desire to have the camelhumpers like us, but it is in our best interests to have them fear us. In order to accomplish this, our methods and tactics must become more than a modern blitzkrieg - they must become the literal unleashing of Hell's own demons. Our forces need to kill each and every person that they come into contact with inside the opposing force's areas. We need to cheer the sight of an Abrams grinding a Muslim into the sand, not cringe and say how horrible it is. Strategically, we need to start using our nuclear forces on Islam. If we take the challenge that Islam has presented to us - their jihad - and turn it around now, we will win once and for all.
So I say that there is no reason to invade Iraq. There is no reason to send our young men off to fight in that $hithole as is planned now. We need to send them in there only to double tap anything left alive after our SLBMs and ICBMs have done their job. And that job isn't only in Iraq. It is in Saudi Arabia, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Iran, China, Pakistan, Indonesia, Sudan, Yemen, Somalia, Maylasia, some of the Phillipines, and let's not forget Cuba and North Korea. Given the nuclear forces of both the US and Russia, we'd still have warheads left over.
Yes, I'm talking about the extermination of Islam. It isn't what we want to do, but we must come to terms with the fact that Islam wants all of us DEAD. They don't want us to convert - that's idiotic. They want us DEAD. The fact that these POS camelhumpers can even make that demand of us speaks directly to our perceived impotence in their eyes. They have allies within our borders - the Left in their various disguises - and they need to meet the same fate as the Islamists. I personally don't care if we kill each and every one of them - down to the last woman and child - and I'd certainly do my best to locate and eliminate all of them I could. Total war has been declared on us. So what are we doing? Are we going to sit here and masturbate while we die, or are we going to get off of our politically correct asses and become warriors again? I've had my fill of virtual self-gratification. I'll have my camel steak medium rare, thanks. Let's roll.
posted on 11/17/2002 6:44:44 PM PST
I don't think you're a fanatic, but we don't have to exterminate Islam. All Islam needs is a Reformation and a lot of Western influence.(Yes, I think we can Westernize the Muslims, look at the many American Muslims(not the useful idiots who get on TV) who are loyal Americans serving in the military and the police. I heard a caller to Rush say that he was Moslem and he welcomed profiling so he can feel safe. I'm all for exterminating Islamofascism, but not the extermination of Islam.(It's not necessary)
posted on 11/17/2002 7:04:18 PM PST
Without agreeing with 11B3 in the slightest, I have to take issue with your call for a "Reformation" of Islam. The Reformation was a call within Christendom to clean up corruption and return to Scripture as the foundation of Christianity, to return to the faith of the church Fathers.
In the context of Islam, what would this mean? A return to the much more highly engaged, much more aggressive wars of conquest, pillage and slaughter that Mohammed and his immediate descendants engaged in. No thank you. I much prefer the heretics of Islam, who pay more attention to their conscience, or at least to the possibility of retribution, than their religious dictates.
posted on 11/17/2002 7:49:36 PM PST
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