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"The Two Towers" DELETED SCENES!!!
The One Ring, dot NET ^ | December 23, 2002 | Strider

Posted on 01/02/2003 6:11:04 PM PST by Long Cut

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To: SuziQ
"One of the main points about Merry and Pippin being larger than the other Hobbits">

Seems to me they already ARE larger than Sam and Frodo.

21 posted on 01/02/2003 7:11:08 PM PST by Long Cut
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To: Long Cut
Anyway, it has to happen, and my idea is as good as any.

I might have to leave this board for a few months until the purists settle down if she does! Heh.

22 posted on 01/02/2003 7:11:52 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: All
One thing's for sure...If ALL of these changes were implemented, the EE DVD would absolutely rock, and would be much more normally-paced and "clean" than the theatrical release seemed.

The theatrical release, to me, seemed almost rushed, and I wouldn't be the first to note that the editing, at times, seemed rather heavy-handed.

Peter Jackson must have HATED cutting some of this stuff.

23 posted on 01/02/2003 7:16:57 PM PST by Long Cut
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To: Enterprise
According to Elijah Wood, New Line HAS given PJ permission to go over 3 hours for ROTK...
24 posted on 01/02/2003 7:18:11 PM PST by The Iguana
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To: HairOfTheDog
I can handle the changes made so far. In fact, I've defended them.

Arwen riding the Paths of the Dead will probably be a bridge too far for me, however.

25 posted on 01/02/2003 7:19:12 PM PST by The Iguana
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To: The Iguana
Heh... I know... But as a PJ-Bot, I would be compelled to defend it.

Or die trying!

26 posted on 01/02/2003 7:26:45 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Oh, let the purists hoot and squeal and squeak and beep. The greater bulk of the population loves these films, and are perfectly willing to put up with some deviations from the books, which, truth be told, are FAR less than most book-to-film adaptations.

The Sum Of All Fears, anyone? How about ANY Tom Clancy-inspired movie? They get slaughtered regularly, and wind up with little relation to the source at all.

Ask Michael Crichton how he likes the vivisection of HIS work, when he's not busy cashing checks, that is. And Anne Rice has had several public wars with the makers of the "Vampire Chronicles" movies, which were finally ruined.

We should count ourselves EXTREMELY lucky. LOTR was made by a director and production company that cared enough to get the main themes and as much detail as possible correct, WITHOUT "remaking" the "property" into a brainless jumble of cliche's, starring Ben Affleck.

I could go on and on about this, one of my main reasons for loving these films so much. But, why? I can no more talk a person into liking a movie that they have decided they dislike than I can talk them into liking a dish their palate rejects. I liked the movies, I didn't mind the changes(and even liked a few), and that's all that matters.

27 posted on 01/02/2003 7:27:06 PM PST by Long Cut
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To: The Iguana
"According to Elijah Wood, New Line HAS given PJ permission to go over 3 hours for ROTK..."

Jackson has said as much as well. This is excellent news, and shows how much TLC New Line Cinema has put into this series, and how much clout that PJ has built up, to boot. It's sure that, based upon the time factor by itself, that ROTK is starting out with a strike or two against it, with mainstream audiences.

I bet they bring back intermissions for this one.

28 posted on 01/02/2003 7:31:24 PM PST by Long Cut
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To: HairOfTheDog; All
Oh, before I forget, there's a couple of pictures of Smeagol at this link, both pre-transformation into Gollum and DURING. Enjoy, and sorry if they were already posted.
29 posted on 01/02/2003 7:42:37 PM PST by Long Cut
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To: Long Cut
OH I have seen them, but they haven't been posted widely.... That will be a neat scene if they show the finding and the murder! gasp!
30 posted on 01/02/2003 7:46:17 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: SamAdams76
Check it out, Sam.
31 posted on 01/02/2003 7:52:51 PM PST by Long Cut
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To: Overtaxed
PING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
32 posted on 01/02/2003 8:42:52 PM PST by Long Cut
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To: Long Cut
Just got home from seeing The Two Towers. What a waste of 3 hours! Nothing but battle scenes. I could hardly pick up the story. New Zealand was beautiful.
33 posted on 01/02/2003 8:54:03 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Long Cut
Just so they bring back Treebeard talking about the Entwives ...
34 posted on 01/02/2003 9:38:16 PM PST by PMCarey
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To: Long Cut
Thank you very much. I love Faramir -- in the book and the movie. He was perfectly cast.

It's great to see the list of potential inclusions.
35 posted on 01/02/2003 9:42:50 PM PST by GretchenEE
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To: Long Cut
I wonder if they'll mention that the dwarf beat the elf in the orc-killing contest.
36 posted on 01/03/2003 5:13:39 AM PST by Overtaxed
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To: Long Cut
Jackson has said as much as well. This is excellent news, and shows how much TLC New Line Cinema has put into this series, and how much clout that PJ has built up, to boot.

When you you're clearing nearly a billion per picture (TTT has a chance to go over that), your clout with the studio seems to go up a notch or two.

It's sure that, based upon the time factor by itself, that ROTK is starting out with a strike or two against it, with mainstream audiences.

What's remarkable is that it seems not to be much of a handicap for these movies.

I bet they bring back intermissions for this one.

There's a thought.

Of course, I'd sit through a six hour ROTK, so I may not be the best judge of all this.

37 posted on 01/03/2003 6:07:03 AM PST by The Iguana
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To: HairOfTheDog
Heh... I know... But as a PJ-Bot, I would be compelled to defend it.

I know.

Jackson has said that the TTT had the most deviations from the text, which leads me to believe we won't see much off the wall in ROTK.

Certainly his first priority must remain compiling a compelling cut of the film. That inevitably requires some compression and some excissions - and the odd change or two.

The debacles of the Clancy films represent one danger - fundamental changes to the point that little is left in common with the books but the names. The slavish faithfulness to the text shown by Chris Columbus in the Harry Potter films is the other.

Especially since slavish faithfulness to Tolkien would result in about 20-25 hours worth of film - excluding, of course, the appendices.

38 posted on 01/03/2003 6:16:26 AM PST by The Iguana
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To: The Iguana
If it was faithful to the text we would have just now left the Shire! I think all but the die-hards would have had troube with a 17 year span between the party and Gandalf's return to Frodo.

And for Frodo to hang around the Shire 3 months or so before he leaves! I was amazed... Gandalf got him out the door in about two minutes!
39 posted on 01/03/2003 6:38:32 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Long Cut
Thanks. I'm ready to buy it TODAY.
40 posted on 01/03/2003 6:41:38 AM PST by BibChr
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