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Survivor 6: The Amazon

Posted on 02/11/2003 4:56:24 AM PST by cuz_it_aint_their_money

Well, I’m back.
Sort of.
My wife, (the lovely and gracious, Mrs. CUZ) has laid down the law!
“You’re spending too much time FReeping and not enough time paying attention to me!”
Women! Go figure!

Anyway, my FReeping has been severely curtailed, so I’ll start this thread, and from time to time, spout off with my two cents worth, but someone else will have to maintain the ping list and post weekly recaps (If they feel so inclined).
If someone wants the ping list, FReepmail me and I’ll send it to them.

Till then,
Enjoy,


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To: cuz_it_aint_their_money
Rob looked like he was getting the grilling for his back stabbing on his original alliance. This was shown as part of the previews for tonight. He may get hammered by both sides tonight.

Either way, he is out the $Mil since he is a back stabber and the people who lost out will hate him and talk the others into not voting for him to win.
521 posted on 05/01/2003 3:21:54 PM PDT by HighWheeler
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To: redlipstick
Kind of a switch, huh? milkshaky was wrong about Heidi for this episode...and ChillOne's spoiler just got hit when they bounced Christy.....

Cheers :D
522 posted on 05/01/2003 6:19:15 PM PDT by EmmaPeel
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To: EmmaPeel
A real shockerooni!
I was so looking forward to saying bye-bye to Heidi. Oh well, we still have the fire and the burned down camp next week to look forward to.

May misery crash down upon their heads...
523 posted on 05/01/2003 7:08:31 PM PDT by EllaMinnow ("We won't gloat. We don't need to. It's enough just to watch them sulk.")
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To: EmmaPeel
when they bounced Christy.....

I didn't see that one coming until right up to the end....
and I still can't believe that those two bimbos fell for Rob's $#1t.

...and Matt voted for Christy!! What, if anything, is he thinking about?

524 posted on 05/01/2003 7:16:44 PM PDT by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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To: cuz_it_aint_their_money
Rob has a big problem. Bigger even - than Richard Hatch's.

Richard was hated - but he never broke his alliance. So the jury was willing to vote for him after making his final plea that "I was just playing the game."

Rob, however, can't make that plea.

What Rob is doing is unforgivable. He is stabbing major aliances during every single episode. There is no, no, no way he will ever get four jurors to vote for him - should he make the final 2.
525 posted on 05/01/2003 7:29:22 PM PDT by tear_down_this_wall
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To: cuz_it_aint_their_money
A big surprise. Christy should have known better to keep her mouth shut during tribal concil. It was a HUGH mistake to tell Rob she wasn't sure what she was going to do. And it looks like Rob told everyone but Butch who is close to Christy, how to vote.
Rob is playing the game well. Remember how everyone hated Richard Hatch on SSI?? But they still gave him the million because he convinced them that he was playing the game the whole time and he played it better than anyone. If Rob does make it to the final 2 he just might be able to convince everyone the same way.
On the other hand if Matt goes to the final 2 he will get more votes than just about anyone. As far as the jury is shaping up, I think they will vote for Matt or Butch over anyone else. I was sorry to see Christy go, she and Butch were the only 2 left I liked. See you all next week.
526 posted on 05/01/2003 7:44:33 PM PDT by MomwithHope
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To: redlipstick
"IMHO, Heidi will somehow win immunity, and make the mistake of transferring it to Jenna."

Boy, Red, you had the right idea, just had the order transposed.
527 posted on 05/02/2003 4:48:05 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: MomwithHope
"Rob is playing the game well. "

I disagree. As I've said the past two or three weeks, Rob may be playing well in terms of not getting voted out, but his strategy will make him lose should he make it to the final two -- against ANYBODY else. Someone else posted that he does not compare to Richard Hatch bec Richard never broke his key alliance. Rob has hosed everyone. IMHO.
528 posted on 05/02/2003 4:51:55 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: Lee'sGhost
As I've said the past two or three weeks, Rob may be playing well in terms of not getting voted out, but his strategy will make him lose should he make it to the final two -- against ANYBODY else. Someone else posted that he does not compare to Richard Hatch bec Richard never broke his key alliance. Rob has hosed everyone. IMHO.

It would seem that he intends to bring Matt and Butch as his final two. I don't see where he hosed either of those two. Sure, he kept Butch in the dark last night, but it didn't really harm him.

I think Rob is absolutely brilliant in stirring up the pot. The way the emotions were in that camp there should have been no question that everyone would want to vote him out.

Instead he immediately frames the question in everyone's mind on choices between 2 or 3 of the other contestants. He is a master of distraction. Absolutely brilliant.

The only questions are whether his sleight-of-hand will be recognized and if the final is decided by who was "nicest" or by who played the game well.

SD

529 posted on 05/02/2003 6:05:29 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
"It would seem that he intends to bring Matt and Butch as his final two. I don't see where he hosed either of those two."

That's my point. In a final of Matt vs Rob or Butch vs Rob, Rob loses, bec everyone doing the voting will be hating his guts.

530 posted on 05/02/2003 7:03:37 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: cuz_it_aint_their_money
I knew that heidi was not going this week. Although Christy was a surprise. Christy is pissed at no way she votes for Rob, Jenna or Heidi. I think unless Butch wins immunity he is in trouble next week.
531 posted on 05/02/2003 7:18:35 AM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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To: SC Swamp Fox
Matt is listening to Rob and believing the BS Rob told him before about the two of them being in the final two with him. Matt heard all the ranting from Jenna about Rob wanting her in the final two so who knows what Matt is thinking know.
532 posted on 05/02/2003 7:21:58 AM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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To: MomwithHope
Can'e see Butch making it to the final 4 unless he wins immunity. And then, noone else will want to be in the final two with him with the exception of possibly Matthew. The snakes will gang together to put together a nasty bunch of survivors for the final two.
533 posted on 05/02/2003 7:24:33 AM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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To: Lee'sGhost
That's my point. In a final of Matt vs Rob or Butch vs Rob, Rob loses, bec everyone doing the voting will be hating his guts.

Well, $100,000 isn't bad. Like I said, it depends how many vote on emotions and how many vote on "the game." Rob definitely has played the game well.

Last season, I didn't think what'shisname would win, but he won cause he played the game better and that is what made the deciding vote.

I can't stand Heidi getting all emotional and saying she'd never hurt anyone she loved. BS. At some point in this game you have to lie and cheat. The only question is how soon you start playing for keeps.

SD

534 posted on 05/02/2003 8:25:07 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
Heidi said that after she turned on Deana and voted her out.
535 posted on 05/02/2003 5:23:21 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: SoothingDave
Well, $100,000 isn't bad. Like I said, it depends how many vote on emotions and how many vote on "the game." Rob definitely has played the game well.

Agreed. Rob has played the $100,000 game well, but he has played the $1,000,000 game horribly.

Don't get me wrong - he's the most entertaining player in some time, but he's also the Jim Jeffords of Survivor.

I'll be absolutely shocked if he can get four votes in the final.

536 posted on 05/03/2003 8:12:21 AM PDT by tear_down_this_wall
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To: tear_down_this_wall
We have been shocked before. I wonder if the girls and Butch and Matt will get together and boot Rob next vote. On one hand I would want Rob sitting across from me for the final vote. On the other hand the only one that would want him there is Matt. The twins are going to stick together and Butch knows his head is on the chopping block next. If Butch doesn't win immunity I look for him to go next. If he does... well things could get very interesting.
537 posted on 05/04/2003 7:04:23 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Somebody should have labeled the future "Some assembly required.")
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To: 24Karet; 43for8; 4wvueers; agarrett; alisasny; Amore; Anitius Severinus Boethius; ...

The Players: Butch, Heidi, Jenna, Matthew, Rob
The Jury: Dave, Deena, Alex, Christy
The Losers: Ryan, Janet, Daniel, Joanna, Jeanne, Shawna, Roger

Good Morning fellow Survivor Junkies

First off, even though some here will disagree and probably flame me big time, I’ll say this now and get it over with.
In my humble opinion, Christy has no one to blame but herself.
Yes, Jenna and Heidi both excluded her from their “beautiful people alliance.”
Yes, Rob orchestrated her booting. And yes, Matt also voted her out.
But Christy was not playing the game to win. She ended up playing the game to at best, place or show. A little race track lingo there.
All she had to do was say “Yes Rob, I’ll vote against Jenna or Heidi, which ever one you want.”
Mind you, I’m not saying that she would have had to honor that statement.
After all, we all know how often Rob himself has waffled and flip-flopped on his word.
But she didn’t tell Rob what he wanted to hear, and Rob at this point in the game is calling the shots.
If she had told Rob what he wanted to hear, we might have been looking at a Butch, Matt, Christy, Heidi final four. Yes, Jenna would have gotten the boot and (I honestly believe) followed by Rob this week. But Christy, couldn’t tell Rob want he wanted to hear, so she in effect booted herself.

Now, who gets the boot tonight? Let’s look at each player shall we:

Butch. What can anybody say about Butch? He has flown so far under the radar, that at times, one has to wonder if he is still even in the game. Butch has not made any enemies that we have been allowed to see and he may very well become tonight’s “spoiler”. On the surface, it appears as if Rob and Matt are pitted against Heidi and Jenna leaving Butch as the “tie breaking/swing” vote. However, having said that, if Rob has an epiphany and realizes that he would have a hard time getting Jury votes if up against Butch, he may very well decide to push for Butch’s elimination tonight. Even so, I put Butch’s chances of surviving tonight’s Tribal Council at 80%.

Jenna. I’ll say right up front, I really dislike Jenna’s whole “Holier-Than-Thou”, “I’m better than you because I’ve got a beautiful body” attitude. But, it has got her to this point and (other than Christy) she hasn’t really made any enemies of the other players. I think tonight’s Tribal Council will be a guys against the gals, with Butch casting the deciding vote. I put Jenna’s chances of surviving tonight’s Tribal Council also at 80%.

Matt. This certifiable wack’o is starting to grow on me. If he pulls a Wigglesworth, which could very well happen, he might just end up as one of the final two and if up against Rob, would definitely walk away with the Million. However, if he makes the mistake of intentionally throwing the Immunity Challenge, like he did last week, the other players may decide to boot him tonight while they still have the chance. I put Matt’s chances of surviving tonight’s Tribal Council at 65%.

Rob. As much as I would love to see this slimeball get the boot, he is still calling the shots at this point. And let’s face it, if each of the other four players are really in this game to win the million bucks, they would have a much easier chance garnering 4 Jury votes against Rob than against any other player. Even so, I put Rob’s chances of surviving tonight’s Tribal Council at an even 50%.

Heidi. I think Heidi is the most vulnerable for tonight’s bootee. She is not much of an Immunity threat and would be an absolute fool to expect Jenna to transfer Immunity again, should Jenna be so lucky to win Immunity twice in a row. If it comes down to a “Butch tie breaker” between the guys and the gals, I put Heidi’s chances of surviving tonight’s Tribal Council at 25%.

Well there you have it. Logic dictates that Heidi will get the boot tonight and our final four will be Butch, Rob, Matt and Jenna. However, I will be as happy as a pig in slop if Rob gets the boot leaving Butch, Matt, Jenna and Heidi as the final four. Only time will tell.

Finally, since the two hour finale (followed by the cast reunion show) is this Sunday instead of next Thursday, I’ll be back sometime tomorrow with my final four predictions.

Take care,

538 posted on 05/08/2003 5:25:41 AM PDT by cuz_it_aint_their_money ("There is some good in this world, Mr. Frodo, and it's worth fighting for." - Samwise Gamgee)
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To: cuz_it_aint_their_money
I think you're right.

Christy made a huge mistake. She got too proud.
539 posted on 05/08/2003 5:29:30 AM PDT by Wrigley
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To: cuz_it_aint_their_money
I've hated Christy for weeks, and was wondering when everybody would recognize what a sour attitude and nasty disposition she had, and the impossibility of dislodging her if she made it to the final two. It was Rob's moment of comeuppance, and you could see it on his snide face (as an aside, do you think that boy ever has a chance of ever getting laid, much less even having a date again in his lifetime?).

Matt and Jenna are my favorites to make the final two - Matt is pretty much a winner as to the rest of the physical challenges, and Jenna on the mental - and each is in the fortunate position of not having actually made enemies. Butch apparently shows his butt tonight, and I think Heidi has the personality of a cantaloupe - in order, I'll predict that the final to go are Heidi, followed by Butch, followed by Rob.

540 posted on 05/08/2003 6:50:27 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (thats what Tony Soprano would say)
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