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To: P-Marlowe
I've told you before.

But in the Marlownian heresy the only way to salvation is through Chuck Smith.

(Oh I can hear the wailing an gnashing of teeth! I called your doctrine heretical. Never mind that you accuse me of being a reprobate. Go ahead PM (or one of your minions). press the abuse button.)

Anyway, by your standards, I am lost!

Sigh.

I guess at the moment of my judgment I will just have to rely on Christ. </sarcasm>
153 posted on 01/07/2004 4:52:36 PM PST by Gamecock (The Spirit of Piel is among us.)
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To: Gamecock; xzins
(Oh I can hear the wailing an gnashing of teeth! I called your doctrine heretical. Never mind that you accuse me of being a reprobate. Go ahead PM (or one of your minions). press the abuse button.)

I've never accused you of being a reprobate. I've just asked how it is that you know that you have been saved? Have you said the sinners prayer or something like it at any time during your life? I'm not saying that that saying the sinners prayer will save you or that saying the sinners prayer is evidence of your salvation, but I would tend to think that anyone who has not said something like it during their lifetime (i.e., "God be merciful to me a sinner!") or who, because of their peculiar theological bent, absolutely REFUSES to say something like it, has a serious problem.

You say you are saved. Fine. So do the Mormons. So do the JW's. I often see Calvinists question them on how they know they are saved and generally it seems that they give us answers. You may not agree with the answers, but at least they will tell you why they believe they are saved. I think it is fair to ask the non mormons the same question.

I know that I am saved because I repented and believed. I did what scripture required. Now whether that is the reason I was saved or whether it is merely evidence of my election is irrelevant. I repented and believed. That is what was required of me either to be saved or to show evidence of my salvation and election.

Have you repented and believed? If so, then I cannot question your salvation.

Is it heresy to insist that a person must repent and believe in order to believe? If so do you refuse to repent and believe for fear that you are doing a work or that you will somehow be seen as trying to "save yourself"?

154 posted on 01/07/2004 5:18:45 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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