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I’m Tired of Neo-Cons Being Tired of Conservatives (Rant alert)
Aw, Shucks southern News and Links ^ | 29 January 2004 | Jeff Adams

Posted on 02/02/2004 6:32:01 AM PST by robowombat

I’m Tired of Neo-Cons Being Tired of Conservatives

Okay, so George Bush has shown that his ‘compassionate conservatism’ is really socialism with conservative lip service. Bush has proven that he is a liberal with a thin veneer of faux conservatism covering the big-government, big-spending core of his true self. So what? As ‘good conservatives’ we should ‘remain focused’ and pull that Republican lever in the voting booth no matter what our lying eyes tell us? That is what establishment Republicans want their conservative base to do: “Sit down, shut up, and vote as we, the enlightened, anointed insiders tell you to.” Mind you, they don’t want you, the conservatives, the citizens that have remained true to the American Ideals of the founders, to think about how they are using you and are selling you down the river to special interest groups. The neo-cons that control the Republican Party today are hoping that rank and file conservatives will mindlessly vote for Bush, keeping their heads in the sand, until it’s too late and they’ve developed a new constituency to keep them in power. That new constituency will consist of newly married Log Cabin Republicans (gays), welfare dependents sucking up to the new government tit on the right, and amnestied illegals now eligible to vote (as well as more readily able to take your job because they’ll work for less, especially since you’re being taxed to pay their government supplementals that maintain their standard of living).

Establishment Republicans are coming out and trying to silence the uproar over Bush’s amnesty plan for illegals. The establishment types (neo-cons) are telling conservatives to keep it down and ‘look at the long view, the big picture.’ What crap! How many times do conservatives have to compromise their values, their beliefs, their standards? Why do we always have to give in but we don’t see anyone else giving in?

The latest in the string of ‘keep your mouths shut’ articles I’ve seen was on GOPUSA, by the president and CEO of that organization, Bobby Eberle. The title of his article was ‘Bush-Bashing Conservatives Should Focus on the Big Picture.’ I wrote Mr. Eberle to inform him that conservatives were keeping the big picture, that it was Bush who wasn’t. To me, Eberle’s article, along with all the other ‘hey conservatives, keep quiet about how Bush isn’t conservative’ articles are proof that conservatives and traditionalists are the embarrassing, if needed, stepchildren of the Republican Party. That in itself tells you the Republican Party is not conservative any more.

Given a laundry list of items, would any principled conservative vote for someone who: Continuously increases government spending, driving us deeper into debt; expands central government power over the states; undermines the Bill of Rights with bills such as the USA Patriot Act; cuts deals with other countries that undermine our economy via so-called free trade deals that only go one way (only out with our jobs and only in with products); wants to give millions of criminals (illegal aliens) a pass, thus not only blurring our boarder, but driving wages down and encouraging even more illegals to flood our markets in hopes of yet another amnesty a few years down the road? This is George Bush. He is no conservative. Why vote for a liberal in Republican clothing?

There was a political shift over the last twenty years in the South, as Southerners woke up to the fact that the Democratic Party had been taken over by socialists and no longer represented their interests, thus causing the huge migration to the ‘Party of Reagan.’ Southerners, and other conservatives and traditionalists, need to wake up to the fact that the Republican Party is morphing into merely an evil twin of the Democratic Party, and they need to migrate to another political entity. It could even happen this election year. The key is not which party conservatives and traditionalists are with, but that they stand by their ideals, stand on principle. The neo-cons have already shown that conservatives don’t have a seat at the table in the Republican Party, so why cast our lot with them?

Here’s something else to consider: Even if the House of Representatives kill this amnesty plan of Bush’s, and the establishment Republicans wink at conservatives and traditionalists saying, “Hey, we knew it wouldn’t pass, we just wanted to influence Hispanic votes by acting like we care,” don’t buy it. If the plan goes down to defeat this summer, once Bush gets re-elected in November you can bet it will be back with a vengeance, and the House and Senate will pass the amnesty plan. Nothing in the past 10 years, since the ‘Republican Revolution,’ shows me that the Republicans are conservative or mean anything they say concerning supporting conservative positions. No, there won’t be a socialist getting my vote this year, be he Democrat or be he Republican. As for me, I’ll be voting conservative, which means most likely the Constitution Party. I’m not throwing my vote away; Bush threw it away with everything he and the neo-cons have done for the last four years.

29 January 2004

Jeff Adams


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To: MJY1288
I think you're a miserable old man who doesn't have much of a life.

Sorry.

Wrong again.

Young... quite happy.. in fact I enjoy my life incredibly.

641 posted on 02/03/2004 5:51:48 AM PST by OWK
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To: OWK
Me too. Now that the tech sector is coming back around, things are looking a lot better. Wife even gave me the go-ahead to start nosing around dealships to see if we can get on the list for one of those new fangled 2005 Dodge Magnum R/T's. Either that or a BMW X3. Haven't made up our minds yet.

Life is good....

642 posted on 02/03/2004 6:03:22 AM PST by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Mike the lurker
Are ya a paid Patsie, A card carrying member of a 3rd party's staff, or is Miss Marple right, & ya work for Soros.

You are working for the enemy, & I don't speak with or treat with the enemy.

The only thing I want outta you is WHO PAYS YOU TO POST HERE

You may want to consider switching to decaf. The iidea that people are making a living off of posting to a on a internet forum as part of a grand conspiracy is a little out there.

643 posted on 02/03/2004 6:36:54 AM PST by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Orangedog
Actually, (tin foil firmly in place), I wouldn't put it past Soros to be behind the rash of troll zottings we've seen over the past few months. I just don't think the liberals who would be amenable to such employment could bare to post here more than a few times before detonating.

Certainly not those of us who have been here since Y2K. FR was a radically different place then..

644 posted on 02/03/2004 6:40:03 AM PST by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Cultural Jihad
And we'll all pretend to care.

All? You and your fellow druggies? Those all?

Did you toke up this morning or do you wait til later in the day?

My statement was in answer to a question. If you didn't ask the question, feel free to ignore it.

It must be an interesting world you live in. One with a violent theocratic leadership which forces people to adhere to their will but allows drug users to toke up and stay stoned while they toe the "Jihad" line.

645 posted on 02/03/2004 6:47:53 AM PST by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: Dead Corpse
FR was a radically different place then..

Hell, it's a much different place than it was when I joined up two years ago.

646 posted on 02/03/2004 6:49:44 AM PST by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Orangedog
Things'll be different again next year. Things change. Sometimes for the good, sometimes not.

Time will tell...

647 posted on 02/03/2004 6:52:19 AM PST by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Orangedog
The same dramas play themselves out.... with different casts of characters.
648 posted on 02/03/2004 6:53:35 AM PST by OWK
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To: Protagoras

Anarcho-libertarian ideologue busybodies always like to stick their noses into other people's business.

649 posted on 02/03/2004 6:58:21 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Dead Corpse
Soros has said he intends to "burst the bubble of American supremacy", along with a Kerry/UN ticket.

Anyone who would vote on mexicans or money in 2004, sleep with the enemy.

Those who would allow the US to be turned over to Kerry/Soros/UN/Kennedy/and Hollwood, are far from the "principled base" that they claim to be.

Or maybe they think this is a 2008 primary?
650 posted on 02/03/2004 7:05:17 AM PST by roses of sharon
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To: nopardons; Texasforever
Let's see.....Campaign Finance Reform?? Patriot Act?? These conform to the limits in the Constitution? President Bush violated his oath to defend and uphold the Constitution when he signed these. Along with virtually every other social program. Not that most other presidents this century haven't done the same, but CFR and the Patriot Act are some particularly unprecedented and pointed attacks on the Bill of Rights. He also pledged to sign the AWB if the Democrats can manage to get that particular Constitutional violation to his desk. If this has somehow slipped by you you aren't paying attention. If this is OK simply because the president is from your preferred party you are a blind and dumb hypocrite. Someone apparently needs to go step-by-step through the first 10 amendments and explain a few things to you.

And texas, yes, I see what you're saying....."take no notice of those God-given rights you are losing, you are a reactionary freak if you're worried about those. Don't worry, the President and Congress have determined that it's too dangerous for you to retain the rights in the 1st, 2nd, and 5th amendments. Move along."
654 posted on 02/03/2004 7:48:19 AM PST by Abe Froman
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To: Mike the lurker
I thought I better let the PTB here know whats happening.

Have you always been a snitch? Try standing on your own legs and defending your argument without calling for the teachers to come and protect you.

655 posted on 02/03/2004 7:59:56 AM PST by Cagey
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To: MJY1288
BTW, you should go to "My Comments" in "Full" mode and read post #583 that was directed to you by Mike the Lurker, IT WAS SPOT ON

You mean the post where Mike the lurker used foul nasty language, and yet he wasn't banned? The post where I asked him why others are expected to abide by the rules while others seems to ignore them without risk? He failed to answer the question, and in response, started asking me questions. Something about who compensates me for posting here. LOL!

I noted after about 40 minutes or so they deleted his post, but if most anyone else used the language he did, they'd be banned. Why do you think mike the lurker is allowed to use foul nasty language while others are not? I still have the post if you'd care to see it. Of course I would no doubt face disciplinary action if I reposted his little pout.

656 posted on 02/03/2004 8:14:37 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
The M/O of posters like these is to run out from behind Jim's coat tails, lob a nasty but relatively childish grenade in your direction (hoping that you'll respond in kind and be banned), and then run back and smooch a little butt.

Almost makes you feel sorry for 'em.

657 posted on 02/03/2004 8:20:15 AM PST by OWK
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Why are you whining to me?, whine to the moderator or Jim
658 posted on 02/03/2004 8:22:20 AM PST by MJY1288 (VOTE CONSTITUTION PARTY, THE DNC WILL APPRECIATE YOU)
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To: Commie Basher
This thread is...


Too silly!


659 posted on 02/03/2004 8:24:40 AM PST by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy.)
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To: Texasforever
You are entered into the "drama queen" nightly award contest. You just need to add treason and impeachment in there somewhere and you will be a shoo-in

I guess Patrick Henry was the original "drama queen" then. What a nutjob militia member, screaming about slavery and tyranny and how he wanted his liberty or death. Common citizens shouldn't concern themselves with rights or tyranny or the Constitution. Our Lords in the Republican Party can decide what's good for us.
660 posted on 02/03/2004 8:34:48 AM PST by Abe Froman
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