White slaughter in South Africa?

World Net Daily ^ | February 9, 2004 | JOSEPH FARAH

[Travis McGee]

The Chinese have enough excess males of fighting age to do both.

[Travis McGee]

Yes indeed. Today Nigeria is on the verge of becoming Sierra Leone writ large. Congo is undescribable, there are few reporters, because they are afraid of finding themselves served for dinner if they wander into the bush. Somalia, Rwanda, Uganda, Liberia, Ivory Coast are all tinder boxes along with too many nations to list.

[Siamese Princess]

Former British colonies --- the USA, Canada, Australia etc seem to be the best off of any former colonies. Most former colonies are a huge mess.

You are correct about that.

[Siamese Princess]

I know that ---- but saying there isn't such a thing as "white" would mean you'll have to tell the blacks there isn't such a thing as "black" and the hispanics that there isn't such a thing as "hispanics". It's all just a spectrum, but the blonder more north European end of that spectrum is going to fade away. It was just a mutation anyway and not all mutant strains survive.

Maybe cloning will save "Whites" from extinction. The governments could mass produce and raise children, as in Brave New World.

[Siamese Princess]

The Chinese have enough excess males of fighting age to do both.

The Chinese have enough excess males to fight any number of enemies. The hope of finding a wife to a good incentive to a poor bachelor. The first obvious target is Taiwan.

[Antoninus]

There is and has been for years, an AFRICA WATCH ping list, and I have been an active and original member of that crew.

Good. Then put me on it (or ask whoever moderates it to add me) and save your vitriol for your real enemies.

[Travis McGee]

I agree. Some parts of Indonesia and Malaysia would also be tempting: for oil, sea lane control, and (as an excuse) to prevent "anti Chinese genocide and abuses."

[nopardons]

Clive has the ping list. I'll tell him, but you FREEPmail him too. :-)

[junta]

I only say that because of an inlaw of mine had parents who worked in the petro industry and he tells me that in the late 70s they were convinced to leave T&T by violence that was sometime aimed at whites. He could be mistaken and it could just be the usual political turmoil of the former colonies.

[cyborg]

This is what your in-law was probably experiencing:
Trinidad and Tobago, of course, is not unaccustomed to violence and political instability in its recent history. Rex La Salle's and Raffique Shah's junior officers coup attempt in 1970s did not lead to bloodshed but the potential was there. Later in the 1970s Randy Burroughs, the late commissioner of police, was often reported to be chasing armed gangs in the Northern Range and elsewhere in Trinidad. Then there was the carnage of 1991 when the Muslimeen of Abu Bakr took over the parliament and, almost, the country.

[nopardons]

First of all, whites aren't being raped in South Africa, by blacks, in any larger numbers and possibly in much smaller numbers, than anywhere else. Rape is primarily a black on black crime there, with shockingly, now ,the victims being black babies and toddlers, rather than teen/adult females. Murder is rampant,as is burglary,muggings,carjacking,etc.;however, this is NOT Zimbabwe.

As there are in America, there are social strata in South Africa, so that whites are poor, middle class, upper middle class,and rich. The Rand, though it is on somewhat better footing than it was a little while back, is not worth much against the dollar, the pound, the mark, and other currencies. Ergo, the amount that is allowed to be taken, would prevent most from buying plane tickets to most places, should they be fortunate enough to WIN an immigration visa. Then, there is that visa. American ones are few.

While England has taken some South Africans in, who have British backgrounds, they are NOT willing to take in others.

The Dutch won't take in Boers.

The French haves NO interest in taking in the Afrikaners of French descent.

Neither are the Germans.

Canada and Australia are somewhat more hospitable to the notion of taking them in.

Now, supposing that all whites are able to get out ( which they ares not! ),what about the coloreds and some of the blacks, who are also being murdered and robbed and necklaced, etc. ? The Zulus were not part of the groups who supported the ANC. They have been, for the past decade, been harassed ( read tortured, necklaced, killed, threatened ) by the members of the ANC, to get them to give up their positions...i.e. opposed to the ANC and pro-whites. Unfortunately, some haves been " turned " and so, there is now internecine warfare withing the Zulus. WHAT ABOUT THEM ?

This isn't a black -white problem. South Africa is isn't just a black and white nation. There are also tribal enmities, which make the Hutus&Tutsi problem look tame, there. There are many different black tribes,Asians, coloreds, and whites, all of whom are NOT either Afrikaners ( which is not comprised solely of those with a Dutch background! )or English descendants. It is still a cosmopolitan nation, which had attracted peoples from all over Europe and Asia, not to mention other African countries, for centuries.

For sake of argument, let's say that America said that they would take everyone in, who wanted to come here, if they could get here;no questions asked. How would these people live, once here? Yes, they all understand English and most speak it very well. Now what? Jobs? Housing? Schools? How do they live....on welfare ?

This article is just a pack of lies and fear mongering! While yes, life there is dangerous, it isn't as dangerous as it was for Jews in Hitler's Germany.The members of my family have jobs, live in nice houses ( though behind walls ), go on vacations, the children go to school, and probably live as well, if not better than you do. Do we wish that we could get them over here ? Yes. Can we? No.

Many South Africans have left;both black and white and colored. A lot of the Jewish South Africans have gone to Israel, which is a whole lot MORE dangerous than South Africa !

As for the lack of common sense, your posts prove your lack;unlike mine. :-)

[nopardons]

Look, you're new here. I've been on AFRICA WATCH threads since they were started and on threads pertaining to South Africa before that. It's frustrating to see the same thing said ( they should just leave ) And erroneous statements repeated continually, by people who know very little to nothing at all, on this topic, for years. You don't remember,well, conversations you had years ago, but felt compelled to post those remembrances, faulty though they are, as though they were somehow valid to this thread.They aren't even all first hand,as you discussed this man with others. EVER PLAY TELEPHONE AS A CHILD ?

Though not unheard of, in America, it IS very rare for Afrikaners to claim descent from some European nationality, than to just say that they are Afrikaners. How do I know that? Because I know a goodly amount of them.

Have you read a great many books about South Africa ?Have you read any ? If you answered yes to either question, were the books written by Americans, Brits, or South Africans? I ask, because I have read books written and published by all of the above and there IS quite a difference among them. It also depends, greatly, just WHEN these books were written ! Authors have their own agendas and even nonfiction books have biases in them.

This thread went off topic quickly. When people post,without knowing or understanding the topic,using anecdotal incidents and hearsay and gossip and emotion, to make an invalid point,they not only high jack the thread, but add erroneous info, that others might assume to be facts. That is not helpful.

If you want to learn about South Africa and South \Africans and Afrikaners/Boers,read about them and/or ask the people here, who do know this topic.

[cyborg]

excellent post

[nopardons]

Thanks, but a useless one. The poeple who don't know the facts, don't want to know the facts. :-(

[Destructor]

Just out of curiousity, do you live in South Africa?

[Siamese Princess]

Then there was the carnage of 1991 when the Muslimeen of Abu Bakr took over the parliament and, almost, the country.

I remember that. Surprise, surprise.

[Destructor]

By the way-- you still haven't answered the question that you started your attack on. What are your "credentials" as an expert on this topic?

[Siamese Princess]

I agree. Some parts of Indonesia and Malaysia would also be tempting: for oil, sea lane control, and (as an excuse) to prevent "anti Chinese genocide and abuses."

There was a Communist insurgency in Malaysia in the 1950s and in Indonesia in the 1960s. The Communists also wanted to control the Straights of Malacca, which would involve taking over the predominately Chinese city of Singapore. I don't think that Vietnam is friendly towards China, though. Perhaps the Chinese will try again to take over southeast Asia.

[nopardons]

No, I don't live there, but my extended family does and has for over 325 years, which you would have known, if you read my posts on this thread. As to my credentials, I'll tell you in private, as most " regulars " on AFRICA WATCH know them and it's a waste of bandwidth to repeat that all again, for the 50th time.

[Jacob Kell]

Not surprising. After all, isn't quite a few members of the South African COmmunist Party white? SUch as Ronnie Kasrils or Joe Slovo?