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2nd porn star named as HIV positive
News-Medical.net ^ | Friday, 16-Apr-2004 | News-Medical

Posted on 04/16/2004 1:46:34 AM PDT by sumocide

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To: Alex Murphy
fails to resonate because the majority of people are either unswayably evil, or are secretly envious of such people.

Which is interesting, considering that the key (if widely ignored) requirement for a workable libertarian society, is that people are either basically good, or are otherwise generally repelled by bad behavior.

OTOH, he is unquestionably correct that the conservative message fails to resonate with more people. It's difficult and uncomfortable to call sin by its name, especially in a society that is increasingly permissive about things that are very attractive, even if mistaken.

But it's also true that many conservatives are bound and determined to make people hate their message. I saw a quote yesterday -- don't recall where -- that seems to apply (concerning the English Revolution): ‘Cavaliers: Wrong but Romantic; Roundheads: Right and Repulsive’.

61 posted on 04/19/2004 3:42:59 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: okkev68
I am still trying to figure out how someone has a "double anal", I am naive.
62 posted on 04/19/2004 3:43:16 PM PDT by CathyRyan
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To: John Lenin
If they all die of AIDS, will anybody care ?

I will. I especially can't help feeling sorry for this Lara Roxx girl -- she no doubt has had messed up life already, and it's even more messed up now.

63 posted on 04/19/2004 3:44:45 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Alex Murphy
I'm not defending the perverts in the porn industry, but HIV is extremely difficult for heterosexuals to get, and it's easier for women to get from men than vice versa.

I read on a related thread that Darren James contracted HIV while doing a shoot in Brazil, and Brazil is notorious for sexual deviancy & debauchery. IMO James caught the virus while shooting up drugs or having sex with another man. Everybody likes to refer to Magic Johnson as the poster child for HIV in heterosexuals but Johnson never publicily admitted how or where he got the disease.

64 posted on 04/19/2004 3:46:30 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (EEE)
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To: CathyRyan
I am still trying to figure out how someone has a "double anal", I am naive.

I think it's something that requires two men of ... er ... excessive endowment. And a girl who's willing to be treated like road kill.

65 posted on 04/19/2004 3:46:45 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb
I may need to poke out my mind's eye after that
66 posted on 04/19/2004 3:52:34 PM PDT by CathyRyan
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To: Admin Moderator
Please forgive the profanity in that post from the article.
68 posted on 04/19/2004 3:59:27 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (EEE)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
I’m educated about the STDs since I’m in grade 3. I was educated about condoms. I knew I didn’t want any STDs.

This young woman was totally misled by the whole 'safe' sex line and obviously didn't make good decisions, buuuuttt, I wonder - are any of those advocates of sex-ed for the k-5 set reading this??? I can't decide if they are thinking perhaps grade 3(!!!) isn't early enough (I'm aware there is a movement to that effect) or just ignoring it because clearly it didn't help her much and seems to act as more of a 'how-to' than a preventative measure.

69 posted on 04/19/2004 4:04:22 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
I feel sorry for her...

But damn, she's crazy.

70 posted on 04/19/2004 4:07:40 PM PDT by Benrand
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To: Rosencrantz
OMG I can't believe she agreed to that. They must've offered her really big money or something. I know there aren't that many girls that agree to double penetration, but double penetration anal, that's just crazy. I can't believe what some girls are persuaded to do for money.
71 posted on 04/19/2004 4:11:27 PM PDT by snowstorm12
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To: r9etb
...the key (if widely ignored) requirement for a workable libertarian society, is that people are either basically good, or are otherwise generally repelled by bad behavior...

And if the requirement (which is really a moral/religious statement about human nature) fails to be met, "morally neutral" libertarianism results in anarchy. Exactly the (silent) assumption I was trying to root out. Thanks!

72 posted on 04/19/2004 4:28:10 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Red6
"We sue tobacco companies, car manufacturers, and McDonalds for selling unhealthy food. Yet we allow these people to advertise and sell a harmfull product."

It all depends on what's politically correct, Red6; whatever advances the "destroy the American culture" agenda ia always protected...

73 posted on 04/19/2004 4:35:33 PM PDT by Paulie
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To: r9etb
You feel sorry for someone who made a choice to go into a high risk business and is paying for it with her life ? I don't.
74 posted on 04/19/2004 5:05:44 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: John Lenin
You feel sorry for someone who made a choice to go into a high risk business and is paying for it with her life ?

Yeah, I do feel sorry for her. Are you going to cast the first stone?

75 posted on 04/19/2004 6:59:42 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb
I'm not casting any stones. I have done many risky things in my life and I've also accepted the consequences for my own failures when things go wrong.
76 posted on 04/19/2004 8:07:59 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: John Lenin
I have done stupid things in the past too. So that means I should just stick my head in the sand? When I see my daughter take a wrong turn just let go, say nothing; after all, I did make my share of mistakes in the past.

Red6
77 posted on 04/20/2004 1:14:16 AM PDT by Red6
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To: Red6
just sue, sue, sue our troubles away...and personal and parental responsibility be damned
78 posted on 04/20/2004 6:25:10 AM PDT by fod
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To: Long Cut
Just some more reasons why the conservative message fails to resonate with more people

It's not the message- it's the messenger. I have no problem with people calling the porn industry immoral or even saying that the porn stars who caught AIDS here have themselves to blame, at the end of the day. However, to basically say that you don't even feel a twinge of pity or compassion for a 19 year-old who is now facing a death sentence? It's tough to figure out what goes on in some people's minds.

It reminds me of the anti-gay crusaders who picketed Matthew Shepperd's funeral and held up signs praising his brutal death. Some people make reptiles look loving.

79 posted on 04/20/2004 6:48:05 AM PDT by Modernman (Work is the curse of the drinking classes. -Oscar Wilde)
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To: snowstorm12
OMG I can't believe she agreed to that. They must've offered her really big money or something.

Probably not. She was new in the industry and she was doing a video for what appears to be a smaller porn producer. I'd be surprised if she made anything more than $1000 for the shoot, if that.

High-end porn stars, like the one who work for Vivid (a publicly-traded corporation) can make good money and have a lot of control over who they work with, what kind of sex acts they have to perform etc. Girls just starting out have a lot less control.

80 posted on 04/20/2004 6:53:13 AM PDT by Modernman (Work is the curse of the drinking classes. -Oscar Wilde)
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