Make Peace With Pot

NY Times ^ | April 26, 2004 | ERIC SCHLOSSER

[tdadams]

If a product manufactured and consumed locally is deemed to have an effect on regulated interstate commerce, of course it should be regulated also.

Oh, brother. You are a true believer in a big, powerful, all encompassing federal government. No wonder we're not ever going to see eye to eye.

[AxelPaulsenJr]

I was respondent to the question. Just not with the answer that you considered to be correct.

[tacticalogic]

If you think you did, then I guess we're done.

[AxelPaulsenJr]

Good enough.

[robertpaulsen]

"And who determines which drug classification it falls under... again, the fedgov."

That was a decision made by the people for all drugs, not just marijuana. Why should marijuana be an exception?

[robertpaulsen]

"Regulate" - to keep in good working order.
-- Source: Merriam-tacticalogic's New Collegiate Dictionary

If Filburn and the other wheat farmers were allowed to grow as much as they wanted, would the federal regulatory effort have been undermined? Forget about a liberal or conservative reading of anything. Just yes or no.

[tdadams]

Why should marijuana be an exception?

I don't believe I said it should be.

[robertpaulsen]

"You are a true believer in a big, powerful, all encompassing federal government."

Not at all. I'm not a fan of regulation -- I've stated that before.

But IF the government chooses to constitutionally regulate the interstate commerce of a product with the interests of the nation in mind, and with the approval of the people, are you saying that individuals and/or states should be allowed to subvert, undermine, and negate Congress' efforts?

Who's side are you on?

Should Filburn and the rest of the wheat farmers have been allowed to grow as much wheat as they wanted? Bad regulation is not necessarily unconstitutional, you know.

[robertpaulsen]

Then why point out the obvious? You're pulling a MrLeRoy here.

[AxelPaulsenJr]

LOL, not what I hoped to hear. I hoped that you would tell me that all we be ok.

[tdadams]

My point is (as if you didn't get it anyway) that you imply that the the federal government has no choice but to make marijuana illegal because it's a schedule I drug (having a high potential for abuse and no recognized medical benefit).

But who is it that designates marijuana as a schedule I drug, why it's also the federal government.

This in spite of the fact that 35 states have legislation recognizing some medical benefits from marijuana.

[tacticalogic]

Forget about a liberal or conservative reading of anything. Just yes or no.

You don't fool around when you load a question, do you?

[tacticalogic]

But IF the government chooses to constitutionally regulate the interstate commerce of a product with the interests of the nation in mind, and with the approval of the people, are you saying that individuals and/or states should be allowed to subvert, undermine, and negate Congress' efforts?

Yet another loaded question that tries to establish the constitutionality of the New Deal Commerce Clause as a given.

[P_A_I]

robertpaulsen wrote:

But IF the government chooses to constitutionally regulate the interstate commerce of a product with the interests of the nation in mind, and with the approval of the people, are you saying that individuals and/or states should be allowed to subvert, undermine, and negate Congress' efforts?

Who's side are you on?

Should Filburn and the rest of the wheat farmers have been allowed to grow as much wheat as they wanted?

Bad regulation is not necessarily unconstitutional, you know.

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Regulating grain markets using the guise of commerce clause 'power' is unconstitutional on its face.

In a free republic with free markets Filburn and the rest of the wheat farmers could grow as much wheat as they wanted, & individuals and/or states should be allowed to subvert, undermine, and negate unconstitutional Congressional efforts to restrain free trade.

Who's side are you on?

[philman_36]

Maybe you know somebody that knows how to do that.
Sorry, I don't.

[William Terrell]

It didn't take me long to develop it. I used Borland C++Builder. To gather the data I do have to set my page preferences to 250 and page through each poster search and save the pages.

I would like to know how to connect to FR like a common browser and send it a URL and trap the return stream.

[robertpaulsen]

"has no choice but to make marijuana illegal because it's a schedule I drug"

No. It is illegal. It is also a Schedule I drug, along with 82 other Schedule I drugs.

If marijuana were moved to Schedule II (or III or IV), it would still be illegal (without a prescription).

8 states, not 35, have legalized medical marijuana. The other 27 offer lip service only.

[jmc813]

I hoped that you would tell me that all we be ok.

Bah. We're either getting socialist Hoeffel into the Senate or scumbag (R)len heading up the judicary committee. I'm leaning towards rooting for Hoeffel at this point, as I feel he would do less damage. God, I hate RINOs!

[robertpaulsen]

"You don't fool around when you load a question, do you?"

Not the way you fool around with an answer. Actually, I didn't expect one.

I'm hoping that tdadams will do me the courtesy of answering the same question.

[jmc813]

It didn't take me long to develop it. I used Borland C++Builder. To gather the data I do have to set my page preferences to 250 and page through each poster search and save the pages.

That's pretty awesome. If you don't mind sharing it, I would love to take a look at the source code for it. I can FReepmail you my regular e-mail addy for that if you'd like.