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THE BATTLE OF ATLANTA: Civilians were Sherman's targets
Atlanta Journal Constitution ^ | 07/16/04 | JOHN A. TURES

Posted on 07/18/2004 8:40:59 PM PDT by canalabamian

Not only was William Tecumseh Sherman guilty of many of the crimes that some apologists portray as "tall tales," but also his specter seems to haunt the scandal-ridden halls of the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.

Sherman had a relatively poor record battling armies. His lack of preparation nearly destroyed Union forces at Shiloh. He was repulsed at Chickasaw Bluffs, losing an early opportunity to capture Vicksburg, Miss. The result was a bloody campaign that dragged on for months. He was blocked by Gen. Pat Cleburne at the Battle of Chattanooga and needed to be bailed out by Gen. George Thomas' Army of the Cumberland. His troops were crushed by rebel forces in the Battle of Kennesaw Mountain.

But Sherman knew how to make war against civilians. After the capture of Atlanta, he engaged in policies similar to ethnic cleansing in the former Yugoslavia by expelling citizens from their homes. "You might as well appeal against the thunderstorm as against these terrible hardships of war," he told the fleeing population. Today, Slobodan Milosevic is on trial for similar actions in Kosovo.

An article on Sherman in The Atlanta Journal-Constitution last spring asserted that Sherman attacked acceptable military targets "by the standards of war at the time." This seems to assume that human rights were invented with the creation of the United Nations. But Gen. Grant did not burn Virginia to the ground. Gen. Lee did not burn Maryland or Pennsylvania when he invaded. Both sought to destroy each other's armies instead of making war against women and children, as Sherman did.

After promising to "make Georgia . . . howl," Sherman continued such policies in the Carolinas. Not only did he preside over the burning of Columbia, but he also executed several prisoners of war in retaliation for the ambush of one of his notorious foraging parties. While Andersonville's camp commander, Henry Wirz, was found guilty of conspiracy to impair the health and destroy the life of prisoners and executed, nothing like that happened to Sherman.

According to an article by Maj. William W. Bennett, Special Forces, U.S. Army, Sherman turned his attention to a new soft target after the Civil War: Native Americans. Rather than engage Indian fighters, Sherman again preferred a strategy of killing noncombatants. After an ambush of a military detachment by Red Cloud's tribe, Sherman said, "We must act with vindictive earnestness against the Sioux, even to their extermination, men, women and children."

Bennett notes that Sherman carried out his campaign with brutal efficiency. On the banks of the Washita River, Gen. George Armstrong Custer massacred a village of the friendly Cheyenne Chief Black Kettle, who had located to a reservation. Sherman was quoted as saying, "The more we can kill this year, the less will have to be killed the next war, for the more I see of these Indians, the more convinced I am that they all have to be killed or maintained as a species of paupers. Their attempts at civilization are simply ridiculous."

Such slaughter was backed by the extermination of the buffalo as a means of depriving the men, women and children with a source of food. Many Native Americans not killed by Sherman's troopers were forced onto reservations or exiled to Florida to face swamps and disease.

Now we have learned about the abuse of prisoners in Iraq. Such events may seem unrelated, were it not for reports that Sherman's policies are still taught to West Point cadets as an example of how to break an enemy's will to fight.

Are we therefore shocked by the acts of barbarity against Iraqi detainees? As long as we honor Sherman, teach his tactics and revise history to excuse his actions, we can expect more examples of torture and savagery against noncombatants we encounter in other countries.

John Tures is an assistant professor of political science at LaGrange College who was born in Wisconsin, opposes the 1956 Georgia flag and still has a low opinion of Sherman.


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To: spodefly

A Sherman quote : "Though I never ordered it, and never wished it, I have never shed any tears over the event, because I believe that it hastened what we all fought for, the end of the war."


41 posted on 07/19/2004 4:24:45 AM PDT by LittleMoe
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To: canalabamian

I thought this war was over...


42 posted on 07/19/2004 4:27:51 AM PDT by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Great post! Was that Sherman's letter to Grant asking for permission to make his march? I know that, because the idea was so revolutionary, both Grant and Lincoln were dubious of its chances of success. I always loved reading the account of the worrying Grant and Lincoln did between the time Sherman struck out from Atlanta and when he finally emerged a couple of months later on the coast and presented to Lincoln the city of Savannah as a Christmas gift.

Sherman's sacking of Atlanta was one of the two most important Union victories of the war, Gettysburg being the other. Had Sherman not sacked Atlanta before the election of 1864, chances are McClelland would have beaten Lincoln and negotiated a peace that left the Confederacy intact and our country split in half. Were it not for Wm. T. Sherman our nation and the world would look very, very different today.


43 posted on 07/19/2004 4:37:50 AM PDT by Neville72
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To: Neville72
Was that Sherman's letter to Grant asking for permission to make his march?

Yes it was. I wish I knew of a good account of Sherman's march across Georgia. I've got a great book on the Atlanta campaign itself, but a well-researched book on the march would do a lot towards refuting all the southron myths that are spread about that campaign.

44 posted on 07/19/2004 5:10:33 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: Neville72
Headquarters Military Division of the Mississippi,
In the field, Atlanta, Georgia, September 12, 1864.

James M. Calhoun, Mayor
E. E. Rawson and S. C. Wells, representing City Council of Atlanta

Gentlemen:

I have your letter of the 11th, in the nature of a petition to revoke my orders removing all the inhabitants from Atlanta. I have read it carefully, and give full credit to your statements of the distress that will be occasioned, and yet shall not revoke my orders, because they were not designed to meet the humanities of the case, but to prepare for the future struggles in which millions of good people outside of Atlanta have a deep interest. We must have peace, not only at Atlanta, but in all America. To secure this, we must stop the war that now desolates our once happy and favored country. To stop war, we must defeat the rebel armies which are arrayed against the laws and Constitution that all must respect and obey. To defeat those armies, we must prepare the way to reach them in their recesses, provided with the arms and instruments which enable us to accomplish our purpose. Now, I know the vindictive nature of our enemy, that we may have many years of military operations from this quarter; and, therefore, deem it wise and prudent to prepare in time. The use of Atlanta for warlike purposes is inconsistent with its character as a home for families. There will be no manufactures, commerce, or agriculture here, for the maintenance of families, and sooner or later want will compel the inhabitants to go. Why not go now, when all the arrangements are completed for the transfer, instead of waiting till the plunging shot of contending armies will renew the scenes of the past month? Of course, I do not apprehend any such thing at this moment, but you do not suppose this army will be here until the war is over. I cannot discuss this subject with you fairly, because I cannot impart to you what we propose to do, but I assert that our military plans make it necessary for the inhabitants to go away, and I can only renew my offer of services to make their exodus in any direction as easy and comfortable as possible.

You cannot qualify war in harsher terms than I will. War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it; and those who brought war into our country deserve all the curses and maledictions a people can pour out. I know I had no hand in making this war, and I know I will make more sacrifices today than any of you to secure peace. But you cannot have peace and a division of our country. If the United States submits to a division now, it will not stop, but will go on until we reap the fate of Mexico, which is eternal war. The United States does and must assert its authority, wherever it once had power; for, if it relaxes one bit to pressure, it is gone, and I believe that such is the national feeling. This feeling assumes various shapes, but always comes back to that of Union. Once admit the Union, once more acknowledge the authority of the national Government, and, instead of devoting your houses and streets and roads to the dread uses of war, I and this army become at once your protectors and supporters, shielding you from danger, let it come from what quarter it may. I know that a few individuals cannot resist a torrent of error and passion, such as swept the South into rebellion, but you can point out, so that we may know those who desire a government, and those who insist on war and its desolation.

You might as well appeal against the thunder-storm as against these terrible hardships of war. They are inevitable, and the only way the people of Atlanta can hope once more to live in peace and quiet at home, is to stop the war, which can only be done by admitting that it began in error and is perpetuated in pride.

We don't want your negroes, or your horses, or your houses, or your lands, or any thing you have, but we do want and will have a just obedience to the laws of the United States. That we will have, and, if it involves the destruction of your improvements, we cannot help it.

You have heretofore read public sentiment in your newspapers, that live by falsehood and excitement; and the quicker you seek for truth in other quarters, the better. I repeat then that, by the original compact of Government, the United States had certain rights in Georgia, which have never been relinquished and never will be; that the South began war by seizing forts, arsenals, mints, custom-houses, etc., etc., long before Mr. Lincoln was installed, and before the South had one jot or tittle of provocation. I myself have seen in Missouri, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Mississippi, hundreds and thousands of women and children fleeing from your armies and desperadoes, hungry and with bleeding feet. In Memphis, Vicksburg, and Mississippi, we fed thousands upon thousands of the families of rebel soldiers left on our hands, and whom we could not see starve. Now that war comes home to you, you feel very different. You deprecate its horrors, but did not feel them when you sent car-loads of soldiers and ammunition, and moulded shells and shot, to carry war into Kentucky and Tennessee, to desolate the homes of hundreds and thousands of good people who only asked to live in peace at their old homes and under the Government of their inheritance. But these comparisons are idle. I want peace, and believe it can only be reached through union and war, and I will ever conduct war with a view to perfect and early success.

But, my dear sirs, when peace does come, you may call on me for any thing. Then will I share with you the last cracker, and watch with you to shield your homes and families against danger from every quarter.

Now you must go, and take with you the old and feeble, feed and nurse them, and build for them, in more quiet places, proper habitations to shield them against the weather until the mad passions of men cool down, and allow the Union and peace once more to settle over your old homes at Atlanta. Yours in haste,

W. T. Sherman, Major-General commanding.

45 posted on 07/19/2004 5:14:12 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: saquin

As I stated, I don't believe there is any connection to Abu Ghraib. I thought the take on Sherman was interesting. As for the author and style of the article, I can only say that its from the AJC. ;)


49 posted on 07/19/2004 5:30:52 AM PDT by canalabamian (Common sense, unfortunately, is not very common)
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To: SouthernFreebird
"As long as Sherman was killin Southerners he was OK by me."
a$$wipe

He is much worse than that, I hope he don't come to Dixie, and run that by me. I will wind up in Stark, waiting on the needle.

50 posted on 07/19/2004 5:31:04 AM PDT by DeaconRed (NOVEMBER 2, 2004: FLUSH THE JOHNS DAY: It will stink like Cow sheet till the 3rd! ! ! ! !)
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To: zarf
As long as Sherman was killin Southerners he was OK by me.

May Sherman [*SPIT*} long rot in hell. Some of those he killed were my family. You can join him.

52 posted on 07/19/2004 5:34:24 AM PDT by 4CJ (||) Men die by the calendar, but nations die by their character. - John Armor, 5 Jun 2004 (||)
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To: TonyRo76

Thank you sir - it is encouraging to see that honour and decency are still taught and respected, even if not up in the American North.


53 posted on 07/19/2004 5:40:46 AM PDT by 4CJ (||) Men die by the calendar, but nations die by their character. - John Armor, 5 Jun 2004 (||)
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To: *dixie_list; sionnsar; Free Trapper; dcwusmc; Wampus SC; Fiddlstix; Southron Patriot; ...

bump


55 posted on 07/19/2004 5:50:54 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner
I would love to be on your dixie list....

Dixie Forever!

56 posted on 07/19/2004 5:54:49 AM PDT by carton253 (It's time to draw your sword and throw away the scabbard... General TJ Jackson)
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To: nwrep; Shooter 2.5; SouthernFreebird; canalabamian; Capriole
VDH believes Sherman and the Union fought to "free the unfree." I did a little research to disprove that claim: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1150419/posts
57 posted on 07/19/2004 5:57:52 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: 185JHP
Are you amazed that some people will still argue about what the War of Southern Rebellion was about, and about who started it?

Yes. Especially the 'slavery had nuttin' to do with it folks.'

58 posted on 07/19/2004 6:04:36 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Non-Sequitur

You might pick up Memoirs of W.T. Sherman in your local library. Sherman doesn't try to sugarcoat the destruction he wrought on Georgia and South Carolina at all. In his view it had both psychological and military effects. It took away the secessionists ability to feed, clothe and arm their armies as well as crushing their will to continue.

Brilliant strategy in my book. Much smarter than Lee and Grant who continued the idiocy of standing armies throwing human wave attacks at each other as Lee did at Gettysburg and Grant did at the Wilderness and Cold Harbor.


59 posted on 07/19/2004 6:04:50 AM PDT by Neville72
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To: canalabamian

It's called the "Art of Total War." It's how we won WWII. You may not like it, but it works. If you don't use it, then your enemy eventually will. Grant fully supported Sherman's "Total War" strategy against the civilian population.


60 posted on 07/19/2004 6:08:09 AM PDT by ExtremeUnction
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