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Plaintiff uses medical marijuana every 2 hours, but doesn't get high
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/11/28/MNGQ4A2RL11.DTL ^ | 11-28-04

Posted on 11/28/2004 9:20:33 AM PST by Ellesu

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/11/28/MNGQ4A2RL11.DTL

Partially paralyzed, in constant pain from multiple disorders and desperate for help after trying nearly three dozen doctor-prescribed medications, the 30-year-old woman, a product of a conservative upbringing that made her recoil from illegal drugs, decided pot "might be my last shot.''

She's suffered back pain from scoliosis and pelvic pain from endometriosis since her teenage years. She became partially paralyzed from an allergic reaction to doctor-recommended birth control pills in 1995.

Since then, she's been diagnosed with an inoperable brain tumor, a seizure disorder and a wasting syndrome. She keeps 98 to 100 pounds on her 5- foot-4 frame only by gorging on high-calorie foods and using marijuana to maintain her appetite.

There's no euphoric effect. I do not like using it.''

Still, she takes her pipe everywhere, even to the Oakland Police Department, where she's worked with officers on their encounters with medical marijuana patients. She also vaporizes the drug, mixes it with massage oils, or bakes it in zucchini bread, which she eats in large quantities before a rare and agonizing plane trip like her journey to Washington for Monday's hearing.

Raich, now 39, has a doctor's recommendation for marijuana, as required by Prop. 215, and says she needs the medication every two hours. She wakes up in pain every morning and requires help getting out of bed. She uses 8 pounds of marijuana a year and gets it for free from two caregivers -- "my heroes'' -- in thanks for her work as an advocate.

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To: robertpaulsen
... What if, instead of smoked marijuana providing relief, it was smoked opium ...

Morphine is God's gift to dying people. If opium works the same, so be it.

101 posted on 11/29/2004 9:52:38 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: robertpaulsen
If an organization doesn't toe the conservative line on every issue, why, they're not credible, huh? Is that what you're getting at? What are you getting at?

What I'm getting at is that any medical organization which attempts to classigfy firearms as a "health" issue loses credibility with me when it comes to other health-related issues. Fair enough?

102 posted on 11/29/2004 9:59:39 AM PST by jmc813 (J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS)
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To: robertpaulsen
Oops. You forgot morality.

What makes pot any more or less moral than alcohol?

103 posted on 11/29/2004 10:01:12 AM PST by jmc813 (J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS)
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To: robertpaulsen

"what is the best way to accomplish this?"

Some private accrediation firm. NOT government. Drugs should not be "legalized", only "approved" or "not approved" by some private institution.


104 posted on 11/29/2004 10:07:00 AM PST by Veritas et equitas ad Votum (If the Constitution "lives and breathes", it dies.)
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To: jmc813
"Fair enough?"

It's fair only to those who can't see the difference between a stance on guns and a stance on recreational drugs and who cannot separate the two.

105 posted on 11/29/2004 10:10:25 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
It's fair only to those who can't see the difference between a stance on guns and a stance on recreational drugs and who cannot separate the two.

The liberal agenda of the AMA is apparent in their stances on both issues. They are one of the biggest supporters of the "it takes a villiage" mantra. I would bet good money that they are a supporter of Bush's assinine program to mentally screen the entire population. The RWJF is.

106 posted on 11/29/2004 10:13:33 AM PST by jmc813 (J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS)
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To: jmc813
Who is this, MrLeRoy?

There is nothing immoral about alcohol in moderation. Drugs not used for medical purposes are immoral.

Straight from the Catechism of the Catholic Church. Need a link?

107 posted on 11/29/2004 10:17:39 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
There is nothing immoral about alcohol in moderation. Drugs not used for medical purposes are immoral.

That's a self-contradictory statement.

Straight from the Catechism of the Catholic Church. Need a link?

I'm a Lutheran and have major issues with the Catholic Church. My respect for others' beliefs prevents me from airing them on FR.

108 posted on 11/29/2004 10:21:11 AM PST by jmc813 (J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS)
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To: jmc813
"The liberal agenda of the AMA is apparent in their stances on both issues."

I'm sorry, but the liberal position on drugs is pro-legalization.

109 posted on 11/29/2004 10:22:06 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
I'm sorry, but the liberal position on drugs is pro-legalization.

The conservative position is to end the Federal War on Drugs and let the states make their own drug policy. At least that's what the owner of the Internet's premeir conservative forum thinks.

110 posted on 11/29/2004 10:23:45 AM PST by jmc813 (J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS)
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To: jmc813; robertpaulsen

My $0.02...

liberal/conservative really only applies to economic issues (i.e. liberal = marxism, conservative = capitalism)
http://www.politicalcompass.org for more on this.

the libertarian position is legalization, the Constitutional position is States decide (remember, a "liberal" state could decide to legalize).


111 posted on 11/29/2004 10:36:04 AM PST by Veritas et equitas ad Votum (If the Constitution "lives and breathes", it dies.)
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To: robertpaulsen; Enterprise
I just wanted to chime in and make sure you noticed the emphasis on the word monstrous..

PS. In current practice, children may be prescribed the heaviest of narcotics if circumstances warrant - even cocaine in certain extraordinary situations - so I fail to see any reason why marijuana should be held to a unique standard.

112 posted on 11/29/2004 10:45:12 AM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: jmc813
"That's a self-contradictory statement."

Not to non-nitpickers.

"I'm a Lutheran and have major issues with the Catholic Church."

Fine. I'm Catholic. That's how I view drugs. That is what you asked, isn't it? I certainly can't speak for others, even other Catholics.

Is it the position of the Lutheran Church that both alcohol and other recreational drugs are immoral? Or both are moral?

I don't mean to turn this into a religious post, but people usually find their morality in the teachings of religion.

113 posted on 11/29/2004 10:49:49 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
Is it the position of the Lutheran Church that both alcohol and other recreational drugs are immoral? Or both are moral? I don't mean to turn this into a religious post, but people usually find their morality in the teachings of religion.

No problem at all. We're more mature than 80% of the idiots who frquent the FR religion forum.

To be honest, I'm not sure what the "official" position is. As a sola scriptura denomination, this is often the case.

My personal belief is that yes, overindulging in substances to the point of negatively affecting one own life or the lives of others is sinful.

However, letting one's hair down once in a while is not. Consider when Jesus turned water into wine at the wedding. It would have been just as easy for Him to trn it into grape juice.

That said, I find no distinction between drugs when it comes to morality, be it alcohol, pot, or whatever. If you abuse it enough to screw up yourself or others, it is immoral. If you are able to enjoy it without causing problems, then I personally see no problem with it.

114 posted on 11/29/2004 10:58:14 AM PST by jmc813 (J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS)
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To: jmc813
Not that I've ever agreed. And one of the reasons I've never agreed it that it wouldn't work, and you know it.

You wrap yourself in federalism and states rights and tenth amendment when you know all along that turning the decision over to the states is a Pandora's Box disaster.

The federal component will remain to protect the border against incoming drugs that are not legal in any state (eg., heroin, methamphetamine, possibly cocaine), and to prevent the export of our legal recreational drugs to other countries where they remain illegal. More than likely, "illegal" states will request federal assistance at their borders with "legal" states to stop the flow of interstate drug traffic. A thousand other issues.

Pass an amendment similar to the 21st if you want the drug decision at state level. Short of that, I'm against it.

115 posted on 11/29/2004 11:19:58 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
Yes. But you know I can cite numerous cases where the SCOTUS ruled that possession of marijuana does. And not "in a trivial way" -- they have ruled that it has a "substantial effect" on interstate commerce.

1) Morrison is a very recent case, by the same court that is hearing Raich.
2) Morrison was a break from precedent, too
3) this case is different because the marijuana is not being used for recreational use (such that it could displace marijuana sold on the market). Cancer patients (and other seriously ill people) are just too small a group to have any non-trivial effect on interstate commerce.

116 posted on 11/29/2004 11:23:10 AM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: Veritas et equitas ad Votum
Whenever a recreational drug issue comes up for a vote anywhere (federal, state, local), the majority of liberals vote pro-drug and the majority of conservatives vote anti-drug.

I think that one can make a case that liberals and conservatives, for the most part, divide on moral issues (drugs, prostitution, gambling, pornography, suicide, gay agenda, abortion, etc.) in addition to economic issues.

117 posted on 11/29/2004 11:30:18 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: jmc813
"The conservative position is to end the Federal War on Drugs and let the states make their own drug policy."

No, that's a libertarian position. A conservative position is what's in place today.

118 posted on 11/29/2004 11:32:19 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: jmc813
"That said, I find no distinction between drugs when it comes to morality, be it alcohol, pot, or whatever."

Yeah. Why just last weekend I was at a wedding reception where the best man made a toast to the bride and groom, and everyone shot up heroin.

In moderation, of course.

119 posted on 11/29/2004 11:35:43 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
You wrap yourself in federalism and states rights and tenth amendment when you know all along that turning the decision over to the states is a Pandora's Box disaster.

No, I don't know. In fact, I think that the vast majority of states will continue to prohibit currently illegal drugs, including pot.

120 posted on 11/29/2004 12:11:02 PM PST by jmc813 (J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS)
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