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To: bigdakine

WHAT meaning what CAUSE and EFFECT, or in the case of creationism, WHO.

My point is that no one has all the answers. Science is an investigation and attempted explanation of the universe. The Bible is very limited, but mainly faith-based conceptualism of GOD and his creation of that universe.

Why there is the assumption that scientists are all atheists, I don't know.

Every form of life has a 'purpose'. This alone should give rise to something more than the atheistic concept that chaos randomly (....chaos/random) turned into order.

Thank you for taking the time to answer the posed questions. You may find them silly, but the answers given by each person tell me a lot about their education, history, and state of mind.

Accept this as a compliment. I usually find that those that take the time to answer, even if they find out their answer rebuked, are more intelligent, and better educated than those whom find it easier to call others ignorant and wrong without a bit of proof to back it up.

I learn much more from discussing subjects with people like yourself, and consider those kind of people to be the real stronghold of Free Republic.

I don't think there should be a rift between evolution and creationism. There is no doubt that species evolve.

Survival of the fittest is a widely demonstrable concept.

Were we to be creatures governed by instinct, living only by the law of the jungle, then I would say that atheists are correct. But we are not. We have a conscious. We have the ability to reason above and beyond our physical needs.

That alone should make one give credence to a higher power.

But, everyone believes what they want to, in the end.

BELIEF, and TRUTH. Two poles that do not necessarily coincide.


583 posted on 12/11/2004 3:15:26 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (>)
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To: UCANSEE2

WHAT meaning what CAUSE and EFFECT, or in the case of creationism, WHO.

My point is that no one has all the answers. Science is an investigation and attempted explanation of the universe.

B: Science is a self-correcting methodology which interrogates nature to understand how it works. That no one has all the answers is irrelevant. Science is the only means with a proven track record at obtaining answers about nature.



The Bible is very limited, but mainly faith-based conceptualism of GOD and his creation of that universe.

Why there is the assumption that scientists are all atheists, I don't know.

B: Beats me. I suppose it makes the creationist feel better.


Every form of life has a 'purpose'. This alone should give rise to something more than the atheistic concept that chaos randomly (....chaos/random) turned into order.

Thank you for taking the time to answer the posed questions. You may find them silly, but the answers given by each person tell me a lot about their education, history, and state of mind.

Accept this as a compliment. I usually find that those that take the time to answer, even if they find out their answer rebuked, are more intelligent, and better educated than those whom find it easier to call others ignorant and wrong without a bit of proof to back it up.

I learn much more from discussing subjects with people like yourself, and consider those kind of people to be the real stronghold of Free Republic.

I don't think there should be a rift between evolution and creationism. There is no doubt that species evolve.

B: There needn't be a rift between science and creation. But creationism, IMHO, is not only not science, its bad religion too.


Survival of the fittest is a widely demonstrable concept.

Were we to be creatures governed by instinct, living only by the law of the jungle, then I would say that atheists are correct. But we are not. We have a conscious. We have the ability to reason above and beyond our physical needs.

That alone should make one give credence to a higher power.

B: Or not :-). But we do have instincts, and we also have civilization. Human beings learned cooperation, as those that did cooperate for purposes of protection, food gathering were more successful than those who kept to themselves.


But, everyone believes what they want to, in the end.

BELIEF, and TRUTH. Two poles that do not necessarily coincide.

B: For sure.


757 posted on 12/20/2004 1:56:09 PM PST by bigdakine
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