"B: Well then, you're behind the times. I pity the company you work for. Because things like electrical circuits are now being designed by "Genetic Algorithms" which are mathematical algorithms which mimic Darwinian evolution.
I pity the other evolutionists on this board that are getting YOUR help...these programs that "mimic" Darwinian evolution were designed by who? Evolution?
B: Actually Yes. Mathematicians were inspired by them. After all if nature could use these simple algorithms for its advantage, so should engineers and scientists. So a whole new class of mathematics, stochastic hill climbing methods, owes its existence to Darwin. Doesn't that just bake your noodle?
"In fact Genetic Algorithms such as the Monte Carlo Method have been a staple of mathematicians and engineers for decades. I suggest you consider retirement, and let a younger generation of engineers who know what they are doing have a crack at it. "
UNBELIEVABLE! You are using human designed computer programs that mimic "so called evolutionary processes (whatever they are)" to prove that blind random chance can produce the same, or similar complexity that requires directed intelligence to produce.
B: Actually more complex. GA's have been used to generate circuits which are more complex and perform better than ones designed by human engineers. Furthermore, it refutes your contention that Darwinian process can't *design anything*.
How do you even feed yourself without help?
B: ROFL. I suggest you retire now. That would help the company you work for quite a bit.
Your are the EXACT evidence that belief in evolutionary theory is a mind killer. You can't even recognize your hypothesis is self-contradictory, and proves MY point!
B: Let me get this.. A process which is based random variation, cross fertilization and natural selection out performs human designers and that contradicts my point? I'm sorry, but typing in all caps doesn't make your point. You only look shrill and unable to cope.
B: THat biological materials have complex properties and interactions is a fact of nature. Again, here we have a creationists that is at war with reality.
And here we have an evolutionist that spouts tautologies as revelation. We all know, maybe even your 5 year old brother knows that nature is complex, the question is how does insensate (mindless) matter eventually produce consciousness.
B: Thats a good question. 3000 years ago, Why does the sun rise and set, Why does the moon go through phases, Why does it rain, were also considered imponderable questions which seemingly had no solution. Of course, every school kid knows the answers to these questions. It never amazes me how creationists, because they can ask questions, somehow think the mere existence of unanswered questions is a problem for science. Incredible. Folks this is the hallmark of the argument from "Personal Astonishment" and is a logical fallacy. All we get from Jehu are incorrect statements and testimonies to his personal astonishment. No data, no facts, no nothing.
I am speaking for myself, cause I am not sure YOU are actually conscious of anything but what your professors have already thought, or allow you to think.
B: BAwahahaha. There's nothing I like to hear more from god botherers than that I'm "brainwashed". This would be funny if it weren't so sad. Jehu is simply trying to blame his ignorance on other people. No, Jehu, your problem is that you have abandoned independent thought a long time ago.
I could only wish I could threaten Hell to evolutionists, seeing they are responsible for most of the philosophical foundations for most of the hell of man against man on this earth in the 20th century.
B: BAWAHAHA. Your powerless Jehu, and butt ignorant.
It used to be religions were the base of many human wars, but the killing fields of the 20th century were first seeded with the God-hating philosophy turned loose by Darwin.
Which is a religion and holding true to form in that it first kills the spirit (see Christ and His arguments to the "learned leaders" of His day)
Heck it's all just the "survival of the fittest," don't you know? You and your pals are not innocent of blood, even though your hands never pulled the trigger.
B: ROFL. Now for a few remarks from "Der Fuher". I'm sure Jehu will appreciate this, as will most of the God botherers.
"Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith ... we need believing people."
[Adolf Hitler, April 26, 1933, from a speech made during
negotiations leading to the Nazi-Vatican Concordant of 1933]
"The folkish-minded man, in particular, has the sacred duty, each in his own denomination, of making people stop just talking superficially of God's will, and actually fulfil God's will, and not let God's word be desecrated. For God's will gave men their form, their essence and their abilities. Anyone who destroys His work is declaring war on the Lord's creation, the divine will."
[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf" Vol. 2 Chapter 10]
"I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord's work."
[Adolf Hitler, Speech, Reichstag, 1936]
"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the
Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the
work of the Lord." -- _Mien Kampt_, Adolf Hitler
"My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It
points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few
followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight
against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a
fighter." -- _My New Order_, Adolf Hitler
"When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and
look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a
very devil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two
thousand years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor people are
plundered and exploited." -- _My New Order_, Adolf Hitler
Of course, Hitler never mentioned Darwin, natural selection or survival of the fittest. But he did speak about his sworn duty to God to many times.
Once again Jehu, swings and misses, and it comes back on him. Jehu, I pity you. I really do.
Exposing ignorance is fun, isn't it. You are better at it than I am though. :(
You know far more about Hitler than I. And look how long it took you to accomplish that. You are almost too stupid to converse with...bye.