Holiday for Atheists

vanity | 12/16/2004 | Tasmanianred

[microgood]

Looks like you're wrong.

Possibly but not in any important way. The fact is an ACLU secular vision of the world is the equivalent of the Marxist world in virtually every way. It is Animal Farm.

[Dimensio]

he fact is an ACLU secular vision of the world is the equivalent of the Marxist world in virtually every way. It is Animal Farm.

I have never heard the ACLU arguing for any changes in economic policy (beyond rejecting government-funded faith-based programs).

[microgood]

Southern California ACLU does

[Dimensio]

I stand corrected. What a bunch of smacktards.

[bert]

The early church had to fix a date for Christmas and selecfted the winter solstice onto which they fixed the birth of Jesus. They absorbed an existing celebration by Christianizing it.

[PeoplesRepublicOfWashington]

The early church had to fix a date for Christmas and selecfted the winter solstice onto which they fixed the birth of Jesus. They absorbed an existing celebration by Christianizing it.

Interesting old wives' tale, but not true. Christmas is on Dec. 25th. The winter solstice is on Dec. 21st. If the leaders of the early church wished to peg Jesus's birthday on the winter solstice they missed by four days.

[Dimensio]

True. There were other pagan festivals on December 25, but the Winter Solstice festival was just near it, not on it.

[bert]

....they missed by four days.....

ooops.

[Snagglepuss]

Ya, call the holiday 'Nuttin'.

"Hey, whadja get for Nuttin?"

"nuttin."

/snag

[balrog666]

Didn't you read the fine print or was it just easier to lie?

Adopted by Board of Directors May 14, 1983. There is no exactly corresponding national ACLU policy. See, however, policy #318, “Poverty and Civil Liberties.” See Background Statement on following pages

Nor is there any pending lawsuit with regard to any such policy of economic slavery.

[balrog666]

Interesting old wives' tale, but not true. Christmas is on Dec. 25th. The winter solstice is on Dec. 21st. If the leaders of the early church wished to peg Jesus's birthday on the winter solstice they missed by four days.

You are wrong again. They originally picked Dec 25th because that was the birthday of a competing god, Mithra, and it made it easier to recruit from the longer established religion.

[microgood]

Didn't you read the fine print or was it just easier to lie?

I read the whole page and never said it was a national policy. Nor did I say there were any lawsuits supporting their agenda. What I did say was that Animal Farm is the ultimate goal of the ACLU.

The founder was a devout communist and it continues down that path. With lawyers nothing is as it seems.

I think if anyone is being dishonest it is you for defending this horrible organization and calling yourself a conservative in the same breath.

[qam1]

Not quite

True Dec 21 is the winter solstice when the sun reaches it's lowest point in the sky (for the NH), However the sun stays there for 3 days, On the forth day Dec. 25th the sun starts to come back higher, Hence to the ancient Pagans this was the day the sun is born and they had their celebrations on this day.

[balrog666]

I read the whole page and never said it was a national policy. Nor did I say there were any lawsuits supporting their agenda. What I did say was that Animal Farm is the ultimate goal of the ACLU.

And your proof for this gratuitous assertion is a single resolution passed by some anomymous local board in Southern California?

Try again.

[balrog666]

Oops, I forgot this nonsense.

I think if anyone is being dishonest it is you for defending this horrible organization and calling yourself a conservative in the same breath.

I am not defending the ACLU by pointing out that you are full of "hot air". Nor have I ever called myself a "conservative".

In the future, it might just be easier for you to respond to what I actually posted rather than what you wish I had posted.

[microgood]

In the future, it might just be easier for you to respond to what I actually posted rather than what you wish I had posted.

You might take this to heart as that is what you did to my original post.

[microgood]

Try Again

OK

[F16Fighter]

"More shameless atheist-bashing on FR. No surprise here.

Maybe I'll start a Christian-bashing topic, based upon an assertion that all Christians are like the screeching twits who have openly stated that they would like to see non-believers jailed."

"Jailed"??

Naah -- only hung by your God-less b@lls...

...Lol, only kidding --Merry Christmas, Chris Hitchins!

[Dimensio]

Yes, at least one FReeper expressed the sentiment that atheists should be jailed. Another said that anyone unwilling to "pledge their allegiance to God" should be "kicked out of the country, at the very least".

[shubi]

Feb 30th would be a good day. Call it Nothing Day.
We all can gather around a picture of a white dog in a snow storm, empty our minds of all thought and assure ourselves that having nothing to comfort us is the way to go through life.