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Explain something to me. You seem to agree that there are big problems with Mexico and it's criminal environment, but if anyone criticizes our present administration over their refusal to stomp on Mexico, you become irritated. Do you believe this administration is doing all it should to make Mexico more "reasonable" on the WOT or do you agree with it's coddling of Fox and Mexico? Remember Mexico told us to shove it when we asked for their support in Iraq.

I have big problems with people that attack others in the forum for trying to do something productive, it's that simple. Everytime something comes up about illegals, there are those that swoop in to defend them, there are those that swoop into Bush Bush, when the topic is not about the Bush ignorance on illegals. Take prop 200.. people swooped in to scream about Bush policies, when the topic was the success of 200 the action of the Mexican government. This person was active in voting for 200, but was taking a beating about Bush.. Does that make sense to you?? It doesn't to me. People are free to agree to disagree on illegals, but attacking a poster about a topic that is not the intent of the thread is wrong and waste of time..

If people want to start a Bash Bush thread on illegals fine.. I'm in it too. My way of dealing with politico's that are sympathetic to illegals and do not see them as criminals, is to withold donations. I NO LONGER donate to the GOP or anyone planning to run for office until the issue of illegals is addressed to the benefit of American citizens. I write, I call, I and slammed my wallet. There's one thing politicians understand first and that is MONEY. We get at least 2 or 3 calls a week from various GOP orgs for money, and I tell them the same thing. There will be ZERO donations from this house until the illegal immigration issue is resolved for my benefit. I feel my husband are already out about 8K a year minimum because of them, and MY rights are being ignored as a citizen.. But on this, many of us will agree, and many will disagree with my position, which is fine with me.

I can go on and on about how people are treated by the Arnold haters around here. Let's not discuss the topic at hand and find ways to make inroads in this state, no, lets just bitch about Arnold... reallllll productive. And the the poster took a lot of sh*t because she just wanted to meetup a fellow concerned Freepers. I believe in treating others the way you want to be treated. And if you want to convince someone to agree with your point of view, it's far better to educate than to agitate.

Hope that helps explain my opinion on this.