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JUST A MINUTE Minutemen Project dangerous but puts focus on immigration policy
Houston Chronicle ^ | April 7, 2005, 8:26PM | Editorial

Posted on 04/09/2005 7:03:51 AM PDT by harrowup

A Houstonian armed to the teeth stands atop his pickup truck in the Arizona desert. He wishes to deter illegal immigrants from Mexico, but he and his confederates will fail. Border Patrol officials said some civilian observers set off motion detectors, complicating rather than aiding the agency's mission.

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KEYWORDS: adesertkook; aliens; illegalentry; migrantworkers; minutemanproject; tancretoids; vigilantes
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To: Boot Hill; harrowup
"The thread topic changed forever, the moment you confessed to being an ultra-leftist, troll and disruptor. Your revelations will haunt you for as long as you post here."

The fact that harrowup is a liberal should surprise no one whose been here fer awhile, as I've never seen him hide the fact. However, if you get to know harrowup, you'll find that he is a classic liberal, even so far as being a libertarian. Libertarians are not ultra-leftists, trolls or disruptors, imho

FReegards...MUD

261 posted on 04/11/2005 2:11:07 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim (Tom Delay is the BEST POLITICIAN in Congress...and the DemonRATS can't stand it!!)
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To: Boot Hill; harrowup
"I love beating up on Republicans and Libertarians and especially conservatives." --harrowup"

Ooops...are you making a LIAR outta me, harrowup?! I've never met a Lib'ral DemonRAT who could beat up on this libertarian/conservative, so why don't you give it a try?!

FReegards...MUD

262 posted on 04/11/2005 2:13:43 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim (Tom Delay is the BEST POLITICIAN in Congress...and the DemonRATS can't stand it!!)
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To: Boot Hill; harrowup
"I love beating up on Republicans and Libertarians and especially conservatives." --harrowup"

Ooops...are you making a LIAR outta me, harrowup?! I've never met a Lib'ral DemonRAT who could beat up on this libertarian/conservative, so why don't you give it a try?!

FReegards...MUD

263 posted on 04/11/2005 2:13:59 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim (Tom Delay is the BEST POLITICIAN in Congress...and the DemonRATS can't stand it!!)
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To: Mudboy Slim

No classical John Locke liberal or libertarian would be a democrat or a member of the aclu.


264 posted on 04/11/2005 2:16:00 PM PDT by mthom
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To: mthom

Yeah, harrowup is showing me a side of him that he's rarely demonstrated in the past...MUD


265 posted on 04/11/2005 2:23:38 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim (Tom Delay is the BEST POLITICIAN in Congress...and the DemonRATS can't stand it!!)
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To: Boot Hill; harrowup
I don't know if I'd give him too much credit for that honesty since he's been trolling and disrupting the forum for over 7 years, and this is the first such admission that I've seen him post.

For what it is worth, harrowup in the early days of FR did freely admit to being a democrat, strange as that may seem though I don't remember any ACLU disclosure.

I've come around to the conclusion that harrowup has certain masochistic tendencies and disclosing IT's association with left wing causes works towards that.

IT just seems to enjoy being intellectually beaten up, flamed and clubbed with the truth over and over again for whatever twisted reason.....

I think the Freepers Of Questionable National Allegiance (FOQNA) help our cause when they put their Anti-American, Seditious Idiocy on full display for everybody to see.

266 posted on 04/11/2005 2:54:53 PM PDT by WRhine (Is anything Treasonous these days?)
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To: WRhine
"IT just seems to enjoy being intellectually beaten up, flamed and clubbed with the truth over and over again for whatever twisted reason."

Those are interesting thoughts, I've come to the very same conclusion myself. It's appears to be some form of masochism, self-loathing, a plea for help, a need for punishment, guilt, or something along those lines. In any event, his days of flaming, trolling and disruption are over.

--Boot Hill

267 posted on 04/11/2005 3:11:13 PM PDT by Boot Hill ("...and Josuha went unto him and said: art thou for us, or for our adversaries?")
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To: Mudboy Slim
There used to be some very intelligent visionary libertarians around these parts and perhaps they still are and I just haven't seen their most recent input.

As a general rule, however, I find most internet libertarians to be far too inflexible and illogical in their 'principles' and opinions.

That said, I have always considered libertarians to be more liberal and only appear conservative when they are talking about money and the (gasp) thought of having to share it with someone less fortunate.

Most of the Libertarians that I know personally are academics and Unitarian so my exposure is jaded.

Then again, most internet conservatives and liberals are just a touch too inflexible so perhaps the problem is the medium not the message.

268 posted on 04/11/2005 8:33:37 PM PDT by harrowup (Just naturally perfect and humble of course)
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To: harrowup

That said, I have always considered libertarians to be more liberal and only appear conservative when they are talking about money and the (gasp) thought of having to share it with someone less fortunate.

Thats what you ACLU types dont get. We dont like the government forcing us to share it. Your type feels good and charitable by voting for those that will increase taxes on everybody. We feel charitable by *gasp* actually giving our own money to charity.


269 posted on 04/11/2005 9:44:40 PM PDT by mthom
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To: mthom
Thats what you ACLU types dont get.

The ACLU has nothing to do with charity or kindness.

I joined the ACLU after seeing a couple of dumb cops beating up a Zuni on the sidewalk in Flagstaff, AZ in the early 50's for no other reason than he was a Native American and back then the Green River laws were in effect...you know those laws named for your pal Tancredo's state of Colorado's Green River which placed curfews on minorities such as Native Americans and Mexicans.

They took some offense at my outrage and whacked me a few times and threw us both into the stockade. It took some nine years but they eventually lost their jobs, thankfully before they killed someone in their dedication to enforcing the racist laws of the time.

As far as your donations to charity, given your other comments, I would have to see a receipt.

270 posted on 04/12/2005 6:44:06 AM PDT by harrowup (Just naturally perfect and humble of course)
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To: harrowup
"I find most internet libertarians to be far too inflexible and illogical in their 'principles' and opinions."

Consider me a Pro-Life libertarian who supports our efforts in the Mideast 100%!!

FReegards...MUD

271 posted on 04/12/2005 6:59:06 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim (Tom Delay is the BEST POLITICIAN in Congress...and the DemonRATS can't stand it!!)
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To: Mudboy Slim
Consider me a Pro-Life libertarian who supports our efforts in the Mideast 100%!!

How truly odd.

272 posted on 04/12/2005 7:11:03 AM PDT by harrowup (Just naturally perfect and humble of course)
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To: harrowup

Odd, perhaps...but 100% RIGHT on the issues...MUD


273 posted on 04/12/2005 7:45:17 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim (Tom Delay is the BEST POLITICIAN in Congress...and the DemonRATS can't stand it!!)
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To: Mudboy Slim

That is my point. 100% is a really big number.


274 posted on 04/12/2005 7:47:46 AM PDT by harrowup (Just naturally perfect and humble of course)
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To: harrowup; Rush Limbaugh; M. Thatcher
"100% is a really big number."

Yep...even better than El Rushbo's 96.5% number...LOL!!

FReegards...MUD

275 posted on 04/12/2005 7:52:07 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim (Tom Delay is the BEST POLITICIAN in Congress...and the DemonRATS can't stand it!!)
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To: harrowup

Ooops...I think Limbaugh may have his number up to 98.4%...MUD


276 posted on 04/12/2005 7:53:18 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim (Tom Delay is the BEST POLITICIAN in Congress...and the DemonRATS can't stand it!!)
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To: Mudboy Slim

What number is that?


277 posted on 04/12/2005 8:38:16 AM PDT by harrowup (Just naturally perfect and humble of course)
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To: harrowup; liberallarry; MurryMom
His percentage of being RIGHT...I've figgered out the 1.6% of the time he is WRONG, and have adjusted my views accordingly.

"I Pity Would-Be Immigrants!!"
(To be sung to Bob Dylan's "I Pity the Poor Immigrant")

I pity would-be immigrants...
Who follow our laws and stay home.
They are dreamin' of bein' U.S. citizens...
While law-breakers ignore our borders and roam.
Good men whose honor won't let'em cheat...
Good life's what they want best.
They wait patiently all their lives...
Law-breakers queer their quest!!

I chide those scofflaw immigrants...
Who sneak accross our plains!!
They break our laws and that ain't Right...
Borders are Left's bane!!
We'll FReep 'til we are satisfied...
They won't get amnesty!!
Truth haunts the folks who live in stealth...
'Cuz FReedom is not FRee!!

I blame the greedy bus'nessman...
Who use folks' sweat and blood!!
They fail our youth by cheating...
But cheap labor's not enough!!
What message does lawlessness send?
We trample laws en masse!!
I pity would-be immigrants...
When the scofflaws get a pass!!

Mudboy Slim (3 February 2005)

280 posted on 04/12/2005 11:05:34 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim (Tom Delay is the BEST POLITICIAN in Congress...and the DemonRATS can't stand it!!)
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